New Audi A4

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good analysis..an A4 2.0TFSi with S-tronic will probably leave the e90 325i in it's wake in a straight line,run the 330i very very close if not surpass it.but an A4 will never surpass the e90 dynamically..not in it's current incarnation(B8) anyways.but i'd wager that many sports saloon buyers will flock to Audi if indeed the next 2.0 A4 comes with S-tronic.i'd love to sample one as well tho i've moved up a segment to the 5er.

on the CVT..i've driven the B7 as well and while its pretty good,its not great..not in a turbo A4 with it's tuning potential.the CVT will prove to be a hindrance.CVTs are the future when it comes to small econoboxes,but not on a sports saloon..for that,only the S-tronic/DSG/M-DCT etc will suffice me thinks.
 
At least the 320i comes with 3 years BRSI...worry free in that sense...

What about the A4?
 
Quikflyer;344565 said:
At least the 320i comes with 3 years BRSI...worry free in that sense...

What about the A4?

2 years unlimited mileage
 
drop by and inquire at Cartrade-ABT in Bangsar. They are bringing in ABT specs VWs and Audis directly from Germany which carry full warranty.. Good pricing for S3 when i asked them.. shud be similar price structure for other cars.
 
E46F and I went to test drive the new A4 at Bangsar today. It was quite funny cos there was another customer with an E92 335i there, so two E92s parked outside the Audi showroom could have been such a nice PR coup for Audi. Our route covered the Mid Valley Interchange through to Kerinchi Link and Mont Kiara before U-turning and heading back to Bangsar.

Firstly, the space in the car is the most generous compared to E90, the new C and IS250. The lay-out, driving position and S-Line sport seats are spot-on even though the S-Line seats are only half leather. E46F felt the instrumentations were too cluttered and distracting but I liked the driver centric layout and 6 o'clock needles on rev and speedo. The Audi Symphony sound system apparently comes with 12 speakers but they were playing The Stig music, so didn't really test it. The 6 inch LCD screen and I-Drive look-a-like system is really nice.

On the engine, well... it had a lot of low end torque which should make urban driving quite effortless. It's pretty free-revving with 6 virtual gears in M-mode to keep you entertained but what I found really potong stim is the 6,000 rev limit and lack of high end uummph. Here, the E90 325i comes on its own and makes it the UDM or SDP we have come to love. I have no doubt it will murder the 320i in cold blood though.

I didn't like the handling. The understeer was just too pronounced on challenging bends where the E90 really excels. The brakes were very good though, much better than the new C which gave me a harrowing experience once. The steering was just OK where the E90 would provide far more feedback and spot-on weightage.

Would I buy this car at RM235K or even in S-Line specs at RM260K? The answer is a resounding yes. It is very well-made, well-specced, looks the part, classy, definitely powerful enough (250 Nm torque I believe) and a better driving tool than I expected. It is in many many ways a more rewarding car than the E90 320i in whatever spec. If you insist on an E90, then it has to be a 325i Sports. The normal 325i don't cut it without the add-ons to match what the S-Line has. For eg. the lack of LCD even in a normal E90 325i is a real let-down since it is available in base models of the new-C and B8.

Now, to E46F to share his driving experience since he tekan a bit more than me.
 
Saw the new 1.8T up close on the road, from the rear, it looks flat, low roof line, I doubt the rear head room is better than C or our 3. At the side of it, the door shoulder line is too subtle, nothing sporty about it, huge CRV-like side mirror. At the front, the LEDs are so bright, screaming for attention and I forgot to check out the bonnet and fender lines, which I think nothing to should about.

If not because of the very different front and tail lights, you could hardly tell its a new model. Just like the A6, park an earlier model dark color A6 next to the latest A6, can't hardly tell which is the latest model, some say the older A6 is nicer.. :D

The new A4 headlight LEDs looks stunning from far but if u go close enough, the internal of the headlight assembly is pretty bare, hollow on a cheapo look dark plasticky base.. :(

JPB, can compare the new A4 drive with a VW GTI? Since both turbo charged.. and please take ur pick again.. :D
 
i still prefer the previous design before this "facelifted" B8...the LED front light looks really cheap like some after matket from china and the rear also less garang...
 
JPB, can compare the new A4 drive with a VW GTI? Since both turbo charged.. and please take ur pick again.. :D[/QUOTE]

Other than the VW not being a sedan, it should win the overall race...
 
Hey Sach... The GTi is a different beast altogether with explosive acceleration and a much heartier engine. Matched with DSG, it will leave the A4 for dead. The latter on the other hand is an effortless, refined cruiser which will serve well as a yuppie executive car (with lots of toys) or even family car cos of the extra space. Personally, I would pick the A4 but that's now. If it was 10 years ago, it would be the GTi.

Oh, I used to think the same about the LEDs but on closer look, they are very cool indeed. It's bright, noticeable and a feature I believe other car makers are knocking themselves on the head why they didn't think of it earlier and beat Audi to it. I kid you not, it looks much better quality than the stock angel eyes. However, the probloem with LED is, one bulb blows, you need to change the whole set. Yet again, LED is supposed to be very durable.
 
yeah man, the DSG is tempting...but i find the looks of the previous A4 deceiving even without Mods..

cheers...
 
...but JPB, I remember u said you wouldn't want to buy a car that names after a paper size.. i.e. A4 paper :D
 
Yeah, I am glad we swung by the audi showroom to check out what the hype of the A4 was all about. For the price, I'd take it anyday over an E90 320i M Sport as its really better spec'ed on paper and CBU (+ sunroof for the sportline spec). Bigger car too, with gobs of low end torque and lovely paddle shifters which was very fun upshifting and downshifting. Makes u feel like some F1 hero.

However, the car does come with its flaws namely:

1) More pronounced understeer on high speed corners. During the directional shift at the start of the bend u can feel the car washing out wide already. But could be due to more worn tyres (from my observation fo the test unit). E90 feels a lot more planted and is happiest in such types of bends where it squats, tucks in and eagerly awaits you to punch it through the corner.
2) Steering is lighter, and more vague compared to the E90. It feels a bit like the EPS on the honda Civic/Jazz (sorry Audi fans).. a bit artificial and not as connected to the road as the E90. Also its weight/resistance balance looses out to the E90. This is one of the finer strengths of the E90 IMHO.
3) Low end torque was fantastic, equivalent to the E90 325i if you ask me. Mated with a very efficient CVT (no torque converter), it transfer power nicely to the tarmac. However, it runs out of breath abruptly through the low redline (~6k rpm) and doesn't continually pull stronger and stronger all the way to the top. Also it sounds stressful and boomy and racy/noisy which, is stressfull to the driver over prolonged drive. Normal cruising its ok, but with a heavier than normal foot, it can get annoying. No where as smooth, classy and effortless/exciting as the N52 but then again its not apples to apples to the BMW 6 pot.
4) Back seat passengers wont enjoy the ride in KL roads. Even on comfort settings its harsher thant he E90 M sport on 18's RFTs. Not good at all.
5) I didnt like the interior design. Its too... Japanese with too many buttons, dials from the gearbox area, to center console, to dash, to steering wheel. Buttons everywhere! Reminds me on an 80's Nissan. Also the interior is designed to be "sporty" but gets old and tiring I think as a daily driver. Gear knob is also quite old skool looking like a T design. Seated behind, you can notice the sporty flare the designers injected into the car, but its ... "stressful" compared to the much more pleasant E90 interior esp at for the back seat passenger.

I found the brakes to be good and the size of the car good. Looks less like a Honda Civic/Corolla size which out does the E90 here. For Audi's renowned quality interiors and built, there was a slight rattle at the rear parcel shelf and it doesn't feel supple and solid as expected.

Value for money over the E90 320i yes, due to the stuff which comes with the car std and CBU quality. But it was so much nicer to step back into the E90/E92 325/323i. Doesn't match the overall balance of luxury and sport as well as the 6 pot BMW. It was trying to be overly sporty and missing out more on the relax/classy feel of the BMW from the design of the interior all the way to how the ride handled and the sound of the engine.
 
just got an sms from the SM at Audi Hangar...they are selling off the last 10 units of B7 2.0T at RM240k. Is this a good deal?
 
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