Feedback on BMW Scanner 1.4.0

[IanDaddy]

5A and 5B is the O2 sensor. You need to change this cos it is use for control.
5D is the O2 after the cat. Optional to change cos use for monitoring only.

O2 sensor before cat cost 350 and 380 each. The price is the cable length.

I think I know why your reading is 15(off) and 20(on). i think it due to your rpm is set at 700 to 750.

btw, when your engine warm up, what is the idling speed, MAF flow A/C on/off ?

Jarance,
Those codes seem common when scanned with BMW Scanner, they are in shadow memories. Mine have that too last time, I clear with GT1 and they never came back. Anyhow, I have changed on O2 sensors (pre-cat) and now monitoring the consumption, FC looks better, need more time to confirm that.
I have 2 used O2 sensors , perhaps a little sluggish but no codes.

 

[xcrave]

Bro sorry for the minor knowledge from me are u asking for this :

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BMW Scanner v1.4.0.8 (07.07.2010) - P.A.Soft, 2010 HW: V144Bn9 Time: 6:48:05 PM 6/6/2011
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# SCAN START
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Unit BMWTNR HW SW-FSW CI DI BI/VI Date Odometer VIN ADFG Algorithm
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EGS -> 1.423.886 29 57 00 10 60 23/00 172220 km WBAAM12090FN07842 000000 GS20
EWS -> 6.905.669 03 08 81 81 07 26/00 172224 km WBAAM12090FN07842 FFFFFF EWS3
ABS -> 6.751.767 06 33 04 69 60 29/60 - - 007842 ABS/ASC MK20 E36,E46
A/C -> 4.106.930 22 05 03 32 0A 28/00 - - 007842 IHKA E46 PU98/PU99
SRS -> 6.905.491 01 06 31 08 00 29/00 - FN07842 000000 MRS3 E46
IKE -> 6.906.899 10 20 04 52 11 27/00 172231 km FN07842 FFFFFF M35080 - E46 (E46)
LCM -> 6.907.947 10 20 29 20 00 28/00 172200 km FN07842 000000 HC11P2 - 3 (LSZ)
ZKE -> 6.907.659 11 16 02 40 10 28/00 - - 007842 ZKE5
MFL -> 0.000.000 01 10 00 03 78 00/00 - - - MFL2
RAD -> 6.902.711 48 49 00 13 09 20/00 - - - Radio ZIS/BM/MIR


# USER INFO FIELDS
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Unit Date VIN Odometer Assembly Software Service Dealer Tester Program ver.
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EGS -> 26.07.00 WBAAM12090FN07842 0 km 7.504.695 7.504.696 1.000.000 012321 42324 -
26.11.10 WBAAM12090FN07842 153000 km 7.504.695 7.504.696 1.000.000 000000 20000 -


# ERRORS IN UNITS
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Unit BMWTNR HW SW-FSW ERRORS / SHADOW-MEMORY
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EGS -> 1.423.886 29 57 no errors
EWS -> 6.905.669 03 08 1 error
ABS -> 6.751.767 06 33 no errors
A/C -> 4.106.930 22 05 no errors
SRS -> 6.905.491 01 06 no errors
IKE -> 6.906.899 10 20 no errors
LCM -> 6.907.947 10 20 no errors / no errors
ZKE -> 6.907.659 11 16 3 errors / no errors
MFL -> 0.000.000 01 10 no data
RAD -> 6.902.711 48 49 no errors


# ERRORS DETAILS - DTC(hex)/PARAM(hex)
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EWS -> 03/3F - Toleration of changing code increased, key 0

ZKE -> 07/21 - Anti-theft alarm system: Siren, Radio interior protection, Tilt alarm sensor or Wire STDWA Short circuit to ground or Open circuit
41/21 - Anti-theft alarm system: Tilt alarm sensor
42/21 - Anti-theft alarm system: Interior protection

# SCAN START
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Unit BMWTNR HW SW-FSW CI DI BI/VI Date Odometer VIN ADFG Algorithm
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DME -> 7.500.255 15 E3 00 C0 60 44/99 - WBAAM12070FN04681 FFFFFF MS42.0 M52 (EWS3)
EGS -> 1.423.886 29 57 00 10 60 43/99 56120 km WBAAM12070FN04681 000000 GS20
EWS -> 6.905.669 03 08 81 81 07 36/99 1025401 km WBAAM12070FN04681 FFFFFF EWS3
ABS -> 6.751.767 06 33 04 69 60 22/A9 - - 004681 ABS/ASC MK20 E36,E46
A/C -> 6.916.882 25 07 15 32 0D 43/01 - - 004681 IHKA E46 PU98/PU99
SRS -> 6.905.491 01 05 31 08 00 41/99 - FN04681 000000 MRS3 E46
IKE -> 6.915.248 21 31 07 54 13 26/02 56127 km FN04681 010000 M35080 - 2 (E46R)
LCM -> 6.901.429 08 13 28 20 00 44/99 56100 km FN04681 000000 HC11P2 - 4 (LSZ)
ZKE -> 6.907.657 11 16 02 40 10 03/01 - - CC4681 ZKE5


# USER INFO FIELDS
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Unit Date VIN Odometer Assembly Software Service Dealer Tester Program ver.
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DME -> 12.11.99 WBAAM12070FN04681 0 km 7.501.939 7.501.940 1.429.762 000017 00000 -
25.03.02 WBAAM12070FN04681 24000 km 7.516.530 7.516.531 1.429.762 001303 30000 -
EGS -> 12.11.99 WBAAM12070FN04681 0 km 7.504.695 7.504.696 1.000.000 000017 00000 -


Mine compared

 

[IanDaddy]

Jarance, have you tried using your GT1 to measure the voltage of the O2 sensors and MAF. They should flunctuate from about .2 to .8 V very very quickly, the faster the better and the frequency should be well less than a second. Also check your additive and multiplicative adaptation to see if the car is running lean or rich.

 

[jarance]

Jarance,
Those codes seem common when scanned with BMW Scanner, they are in shadow memories. Mine have that too last time, I clear with GT1 and they never came back. Anyhow, I have changed on O2 sensors (pre-cat) and now monitoring the consumption, FC looks better, need more time to confirm that.
I have 2 used O2 sensors , perhaps a little sluggish but no codes.

I have also 2 new sensor. Just waiting for the time to change it.
btw, where did you change it? thinking of DIY but need to have the special tool to remove sensor.

 

[jarance]

Jarance, have you tried using your GT1 to measure the voltage of the O2 sensors and MAF. They should flunctuate from about .2 to .8 V very very quickly, the faster the better and the frequency should be well less than a second. Also check your additive and multiplicative adaptation to see if the car is running lean or rich.

still trying to get my GT1 to work lah.. Unix too slow so did not spend too much time to get it to work properly.

 

[IanDaddy]

I have also 2 new sensor. Just waiting for the time to change it.
btw, where did you change it? thinking of DIY but need to have the special tool to remove sensor.

Just went to my Mech and got his boy to change it for me. I could have done it myself using their tools but no time la (needed to wait for the engine (exhaust) to cool down.

 

[IanDaddy]

still trying to get my GT1 to work lah.. Unix too slow so did not spend too much time to get it to work properly.

It is very slow, what I did was I got hold of a old XP laptop with 1 GB of RAM and did a total re-install from Win XP up. And it is running reasonable now compared to another setup I have got. Clean install will help and also a contiguos chuck of 19GB for the VM will help too. This laptop is now a dedicated toy, hehe.

If anyone would like to try out my old O2 sensors, let me know. Good for those who have codes but wanting to sell their cars soon.

 

[jarance]

It have been bought to my attention that there are some issue with the scanner for older models.

Some of the issue are:-
1. Can detect only DME/EGS but cannot detect other module.
2. Cannot detect DME but can detect other module.
3. Can detect other module but cannot detect DME/EGS.

This issue is related to car that have both 16pins-OBD port (under dashboard) and
20 pins-OBD port (inside engine bay)

see below:-
Under dashboard - 16 pin connectors.

Inside engine compartment - 20 pins connector (borrow from xcrave)

xcrave have mentioned that he can view all modules by using a 20pins adaptor and scan
it with the bmw scanner at the 20 pins diagnostic port. However, he cannot detect the
DME if he use the 16 pins diagnostic port.

Looking at the adaptor wiring configuration, it seem that pin 17 and 20 are shorted.
see below.

I have extract the wiring for the OBD from an E36 wiring manual for verification.
It seem that the communication to all modules can be done by linking the K-bus
of all modules. I have highlighted in red the signal from the scanner to the DME/EGS.
I also highlighted in yellow the K-Bus to other modules. If yellow K-bus and red K-bus
is link at 17 and 20, then communication is possible to all modules.

 

[xcrave]

Its a pain to setup GT1 in Win7 64 bit i can run INPA with no problem... but GT1 are just too hard to configure... Laststep for me is to let the GT1 to accept data from com cable...

Was thinking to find old laptops with win xp too... hurmmm... that will be another project i guess...

 

[Alex5522]

# SCAN START
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Unit BMWTNR HW SW-FSW CI DI BI/VI Date Odometer VIN ADFG Algorithm
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DME -> 7.500.255 15 E3 00 C0 60 44/99 - WBAAM12070FN04681 FFFFFF MS42.0 M52 (EWS3)
EGS -> 1.423.886 29 57 00 10 60 43/99 56120 km WBAAM12070FN04681 000000 GS20
EWS -> 6.905.669 03 08 81 81 07 36/99 1025401 km WBAAM12070FN04681 FFFFFF EWS3
ABS -> 6.751.767 06 33 04 69 60 22/A9 - - 004681 ABS/ASC MK20 E36,E46
A/C -> 6.916.882 25 07 15 32 0D 43/01 - - 004681 IHKA E46 PU98/PU99
SRS -> 6.905.491 01 05 31 08 00 41/99 - FN04681 000000 MRS3 E46
IKE -> 6.915.248 21 31 07 54 13 26/02 56127 km FN04681 010000 M35080 - 2 (E46R)
LCM -> 6.901.429 08 13 28 20 00 44/99 56100 km FN04681 000000 HC11P2 - 4 (LSZ)
ZKE -> 6.907.657 11 16 02 40 10 03/01 - - CC4681 ZKE5


# USER INFO FIELDS
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Unit Date VIN Odometer Assembly Software Service Dealer Tester Program ver.
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DME -> 12.11.99 WBAAM12070FN04681 0 km 7.501.939 7.501.940 1.429.762 000017 00000 -
25.03.02 WBAAM12070FN04681 24000 km 7.516.530 7.516.531 1.429.762 001303 30000 -
EGS -> 12.11.99 WBAAM12070FN04681 0 km 7.504.695 7.504.696 1.000.000 000017 00000 -


Mine compared

How about the Live Data do u manage to read ?

 

[xcrave]

i think there is a minor mod i did to wake the system better from my 20 pin cable... (i got the info from my OBD II Seller)

As i previous mentioned #16 (in pin 20) to pin #1 ( in 16 pin) jumper need to be done...

I use a wire from outside connect to pin #1 of my INPA/EDIABAS Since Jarance Adapater do not have Pin #16 connection...

 

[jarance]

How about the Live Data do u manage to read ?

alex, you need to sort out why your DME is not detected by the scanner first.

The DME and EGS module are in the engine compartment.

 

[xcrave]

How about the Live Data do u manage to read ?

Yes i can... since the im using more INPA nowadays... GT1 Is tricky yet... BMW Scanner for quick change of simple errors....

I found out that my airbag warning is due to Seat Belt Tensioner driver side is faulty not the MAT (thank God) this is from the Live data bro, it shows activity of the seat belts, occupancy and such from the designated Module...

 

[jarance]

Yes i can... since the im using more INPA nowadays... GT1 Is tricky yet... BMW Scanner for quick change of simple errors....

I found out that my airbag warning is due to Seat Belt Tensioner driver side is faulty not the MAT (thank God) this is from the Live data bro, it shows activity of the seat belts, occupancy and such from the designated Module...

bro, he is asking what live data using bmw scanner 1.4 lar..

 

[xcrave]

alex, you need to sort out why your DME is not detected by the scanner first.

The DME and EGS module are in the engine compartment.

Im not guessing... this is confirmation since our car is actually identical... He cannot access any DME if he using under the dash connector... i just found out the Under Dash 16 pin is for Instrument cluster ONLY... i think the car was done so that you can actually do checks in the Interior from the Under Dash connector... and external checks can be acces from the Engine bay...

Alex need to restore his 20 pin first if he want to proceed... without the 20 pin even AB cannot do jack...

 

[xcrave]

bro, he is asking what live data using bmw scanner 1.4 lar..

Errr... I said I can from BMW-S 1.4... but i use INPA more for Live Data since its more detailed...

But as i meantioned before he needs the 20 pin restored regardless...

 

[Alex5522]

After gone through my old scan result there was the DME of my car But i don't know why the recent don't hv:

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BMW Scanner v1.4.0.8 (07.07.2010) - P.A.Soft, 2010 HW: V144Bn9 Time: 09:59:17 AM 2/27/2011
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ZCS coding : /-------- IKE --------\ /-------- EWS --------\
Chassis : E46 E46
Model : 320i 320i
Type key : AM12 AM12
Engine : M52B20 M52B20
Gearbox : Automatic Automatic
VIN : FN07842 WBAAM12090FN07842
ZCS GM : 66120710-4 66120710-4
ZCS SA : 0004B800042A1008-6 0004B800042A1008-6
ZCS VN : 0000640620-1 0000640620-1


# SCAN START
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Unit BMWTNR HW SW-FSW CI DI BI/VI Date Odometer VIN ADFG Algorithm
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DME -> 7.526.753 15 E6 00 C0 60 29/00 - WBAAM12090FN07842 FFFFFF MS42.0 M52 (EWS3)
EGS -> 1.423.886 29 57 00 10 60 23/00 164140 km WBAAM12090FN07842 000000 GS20
EWS -> 6.905.669 03 08 81 81 07 26/00 164145 km WBAAM12090FN07842 FFFFFF EWS3
ABS -> 6.751.767 06 33 04 69 60 29/60 - - 007842 ABS/ASC MK20 E36,E46

 

[morrogan]

morrogan, can you post the 6 raw data. your graph is not very clear. I like to redraw it for comparison with my graph.

Air-con off
RPM, MAF reading (kg/hr)
700,12.0
1060,17.0
2100,37.8

Air-con on
RPM, MAF reading (kg/hr)
700, 15.0
980,19.0
2020,34.5

 

[Alex5522]

Errr... I said I can from BMW-S 1.4... but i use INPA more for Live Data since its more detailed...

But as i meantioned before he needs the 20 pin restored regardless...

Yes u did ! that's why u misleading me and make me thinking why you can read but mine cannot.

 

[morrogan]

Jarance,

After warm up, my car idling even at 700rpm is rather vibration free. It feel normal to me. Anyway, I had just changed new engine mounting and may be it does help a bit to filter out the minute vibration.

I just got hold of a simply DIY service/repair manual for E46. If you need, I can lend it to you anytime. I only use it for reference only as not really a DIY person.