wanna know more about hotbits peformance part!

[Jules]

i heard one very nice e30 with titan suspension overturn because of wrong setting.

wow.....but wrong suspension will not overturn the car on its own. Maybe the wrong suspension, create a driving situation where the driver cannot recover due to overspeed, inexperience, bald tyres and he hit a divider,bush, tree and then rolled over.

I think we gotta find out the real facts before posting otherwise the poster and forum can get a legal suit for defamation....

just my 0.2 cents.

 

[ALBundy]

I have actually installed a set of Hotbits DT1 coil-overs on my car on Tuesday after waiting for 3 weeks for the coil-overs to be fabricated.

The reason why I choose Hotbits is the variety of springs available (for my car and I can choose another selection if I am unhappy with the current setup) and ease of maintenance (RM80 to repair leak). The current DT1 also has got an extra canister to allow longer damper travelling, very similar to the latest KW design (and also seen in some local kapchais LOL)!

As for the performance, I am extremely please with it so far. With the coilovers, every corner is a fertile breeding ground for centrifugal forces!

The DT1 has got 40 settings available at the top of the shock, and i have set mine on number 25 (40 being the hardest) with the hardest spring available since my current engine is a little heavy. The Speedworks owner himself has got an E36 ///M3 before and for most BMWs, they have got a setting sheet with the recommended ride height and hard/soft settings.

Some of the complaints here could be true, as the first generation of coilovers were generally harsh, but the latest ones are remarkably good!:top:

Cheers

 

[astroboy]

On 2nd thought, I guess if they learn from their pass mistakes, they should be doing well by now or at least improved. I am using the local Kepong G|A|B on my other ride, been 3 years now, so far so good le..

Now u have the President's recommendation on it, I say don't worry too much.

 

[ALBundy]

On 2nd thought, I guess if they learn from their pass mistakes, they should be doing well by now or at least improved. I am using the local Kepong G|A|B on my other ride, been 3 years now, so far so good le..

Now u have the President's recommendation on it, I say don't worry too much.

Caveat Emptor!!

My recommendation is only for the E36 and perhaps the E39 since Mr. Toh himself has owned both of these cars. :love:

Cheers

 

[astroboy]

Hahahaha!! Why u scared people sue u ah? (kidding Sir!)

 

[Jipster]

wow.....but wrong suspension will not overturn the car on its own. Maybe the wrong suspension, create a driving situation where the driver cannot recover due to overspeed, inexperience, bald tyres and he hit a divider,bush, tree and then rolled over.

I think we gotta find out the real facts before posting otherwise the poster and forum can get a legal suit for defamation....

just my 0.2 cents.

Holy crap.... dave nearly got me there. Nasib baik Jules voice of reason

 

[leforte]

i have tried the hotbits coilovers for the my e36 (m3 and non m setup), e46 and e39. there is only good things i can say about them. easily serviceble, road handling is excellent, the comfort lies in the setting you choose as its all user adjustable, the car sticks to the road like a proper track car even with balding stork 16inch tires. the e36 was formally fitted with bilstein b8s with eibach springs, the handling and ride is no where near the performance or comfort of the hotbits considering the car is further lowered by 2inches.

the hotbits settings work very well for our bmws but for other cars like japs and our lousy proton, be prepared and expect a bone jarring ride and rattling parts thereafter as these car are just not build as good as ours, imho, the suspension worked but the car just cant take it.

as for titan, i wouldnt even go near them. they do not have any engineering knowledge and suspension knowhow. i was there for a quote before i went with speedworks, those jokers at titan actually told me they are gonna reused my old spring and lowered it by cutting and burning it to compress the original rate. i know about the amazing e30 mentioned earlier by dave and i wouldnt be supprised at all that it had major issues with them that the car ended totaled in the end due to the suspension setup.

 

[Jipster]

i have tried the hotbits coilovers for the my e36 (m3 and non m setup), e46 and e39. there is only good things i can say about them. easily serviceble, road handling is excellent, the comfort lies in the setting you choose as its all user adjustable, the car sticks to the road like a proper track car even with balding stork 16inch tires. the e36 was formally fitted with bilstein b8s with eibach springs, the handling and ride is no where near the performance or comfort of the hotbits considering the car is further lowered by 2inches.

the hotbits settings work very well for our bmws but for other cars like japs and our lousy proton, be prepared and expect a bone jarring ride and rattling parts thereafter as these car are just not build as good as ours, imho, the suspension worked but the car just cant take it.

as for titan, i wouldnt even go near them. they do not have any engineering knowledge and suspension knowhow. i was there for a quote before i went with speedworks, those jokers at titan actually told me they are gonna reused my old spring and lowered it by cutting and burning it to compress the original rate. i know about the amazing e30 mentioned earlier by dave and i wouldnt be supprised at all that it had major issues with them that the car ended totaled in the end due to the suspension setup.

holy crap! another negative statement about the titans.... phew.... I havent flipeped my car yet and if I do it will probably not be beacuse of my titans .... more like 'driver exceed his ability' kind of event .... and yeah, the titan chaps do insist on reusing stock springs with their shocks..

 

[leforte]

more like 'driver exceed his ability' kind of event .... and yeah, the titan chaps do insist on reusing stock springs with their shocks..

a great driver is only that when he can have a 100% dependability on his machine.

as with the phrase above, its very sad for me to tell you by reusing the stock spring and just burning and compressing it and without sending the springs for a proper heat treatment after that ( long process), those morons is just giving you an express ticket to the morgue as your springs may fail without warning. if you are lucky, it will fails on a slow drive and you breath another day. please have them change for your own good.

steel use in the springs or any other metal requires proper heat treatment or hardening after any machining work, welding or heating as this changes the molecular structure as well as the physical and chemical properties of the alloy. in the case of the springs, it may just snap. as the metal properties is weaken and is stressed internally which causes it to failed prematurely due to metal fatigue. a properly treated steel will be ductile and only fails with a measured force applied to it.

 

[Jules]

Jip and Leforte,

I would say Leforte has good advice.....as it pointed out possibility of a SNAPPED component in the suspension. In any case - even if a company is to heat treat my springs, to suit their absobers - I say no thank you.

Metallurgy is a very special science. Tho I learnt this in uni - I can never tell you what temperature we have to heat treat this to.....maybe I was sleeping in class but unlikely.

My advise is this.......suspension is a part science,part art, part driver subjectiveness. The part science, part art bits comes from using reputable products of known makes, and from known combinations ( i.e. h&r/eibach springs on bilsteins, apex on konis etc )

The part subjectiveness.....comes from your own experience as comfy for me, could be harsh for u.

Having said that.....and based on what I hear and read here - Speedworks is rated higher than Titan in my books now. ( esp with their spring insistence thingy....)

 

[Jipster]

a great driver is only that when he can have a 100% dependability on his machine.

as with the phrase above, its very sad for me to tell you by reusing the stock spring and just burning and compressing it and without sending the springs for a proper heat treatment after that ( long process), those morons is just giving you an express ticket to the morgue as your springs may fail without warning. if you are lucky, it will fails on a slow drive and you breath another day. please have them change for your own good.

steel use in the springs or any other metal requires proper heat treatment or hardening after any machining work, welding or heating as this changes the molecular structure as well as the physical and chemical properties of the alloy. in the case of the springs, it may just snap. as the metal properties is weaken and is stressed internally which causes it to failed prematurely due to metal fatigue. a properly treated steel will be ductile and only fails with a measured force applied to it.

I am not aware of any burning involved unless they didnt tell me.

Maybe just compressing since they are standard springs after all but then again shock body is standard length as its not a shortened design say like B8 or B12 bilstein, but then I'm probably talking out of my ass....

What I'm certain about is that I've got no issues with my set up right now which I find to be an improvement over the previous B6/Eibach set up. I am very happy with my Titans.

If there were issues they would be down to the car itself e.g. negative toe out at the back and also the driver LOL ....mitigated by the fact that I dont plan to upgrade to 325i any time soon.... 2 litre is plenty fast already.... I'm not that good a driver you see.

 

[ALBundy]

Some pictures taken at Speedworks when I did the height adjustments.

The ride side is always around 10mm lower than the left.

All that needs to be done is rotate the two cones to adjust the height, and I increased the damper settings to a little more firm

Adjusted the front as well, since its lowered the damper settings need to be firmed up as well...easy as 1,2 and 3 Clockwise firmer and vice versa!

With the car further lowered (but easily clear all the speed bumps), the ride is even better. I am impressed

Cheers

 

[fandango]

I have actually installed a set of Hotbits DT1 coil-overs on my car on Tuesday after waiting for 3 weeks for the coil-overs to be fabricated.

The reason why I choose Hotbits is the variety of springs available (for my car and I can choose another selection if I am unhappy with the current setup) and ease of maintenance (RM80 to repair leak). The current DT1 also has got an extra canister to allow longer damper travelling, very similar to the latest KW design (and also seen in some local kapchais LOL)!

As for the performance, I am extremely please with it so far. With the coilovers, every corner is a fertile breeding ground for centrifugal forces!

The DT1 has got 40 settings available at the top of the shock, and i have set mine on number 25 (40 being the hardest) with the hardest spring available since my current engine is a little heavy. The Speedworks owner himself has got an E36 ///M3 before and for most BMWs, they have got a setting sheet with the recommended ride height and hard/soft settings.

Some of the complaints here could be true, as the first generation of coilovers were generally harsh, but the latest ones are remarkably good!:top:

Cheers

I recently met a E34 owner who also installed the DT1. And he is absolutely ecstatic about them - he said the couldn't ask for anything better - you want handling? you got it. you want comfort? you got it. for the price he paid, his words were "betul - betul berbaloi".

I was quite amazed by his enthusiasm...and now I'm thinking...:bandit:

 

[elwine30]

bundy, how much you did your coil overs?

 

[ALBundy]

I think I paid Rm 3800. One year warranty. Subsequent repairs will cost RM80 to Rm100. Essentially you will save some $$ in the long run

 

[elwine30]

thanks Bundy. It's not that bad for Coil-Overs. Plus it's adjustable.

 

[ajis_e36]

anyone know where the place to repair HOTBITS adjustable,please email me a ajis_6326@yahoo.com

 

[fabianyee]

anyone know where the place to repair HOTBITS adjustable,please email me a ajis_6326@yahoo.com

Send back to Speedworks????

 

[al3dx]

Soo... is the exhaust extractor, down piping & muffler any good...?

 

[agassi]

just wonder how hotbits performace part perform? does any one use before their peformance part? cause saw they have a lot of performance part for bmw old skool model such as suspension,spring,extractor,muffler,strut bar...

bro, sorry...just want to know is there any bmw accesories shop in Melaka? care to give full address & contact no.? tq