Okada projects plasma ignition coils

[ess530i]

ideal conditions,u shud get 270+rwhp.

GTi very fast mah..with DSG,the shift times are to be experienced to be believed.tho the 'thump' sometimes makes u cringe a little.

ESS quotes a 0-60 time equal to VW's R32 DSG for the 530i TS2 stepbox.a 525i TS2 will be 0.3 secs behind.

tested my car yesterday with a passenger and 4/5 full tank and here is what i got:

0-100kmh in 6.75s (0.35s behind ESS claim)
0-200kmh in 22.8s (about 4s slower than this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1S29f5lY2A)

without the passenger and 1/2 full tank i probably can get 6.4s as claimed

 

[ess530i]

if i'm not mistaken,ESS quotes all their power ratings for 96ron euro rite? dunno how that compares to ours but judging from ur experience and explanation,the fuel(or rather the octane rating) u use is probably below what ESS has tuned ur car for.having to add octane booster all the time will indeed make things kinda suck especially since we'll be paying more for fuel in a few month's time.. salvation maybe in the form of 99ron fuel that we're rumoured to get,next to 95ron for the masses that is..

then again,like leforte said,there are other ESS users here using our normal fuel and running perfectly.hmmmm...

also,noticed that u were running 0.45bars before.only after u added those plasma ignition coils and silver plugs did u get 0.55bars which is what a TS2 kit should make rite? there might be something there to ponder too.it should be running 0.55bar from the onset rite?

used to run 1.45bar on my STi.. shucks,i miss boost!!!

maybe u should email absjorn.. he'll know what to do.

good to know there are ESS users out there:top:

i did ask ESS about the boost they said it was normal at 0.45bars and when i told them about 0.55bars they said its normal too but changing the coils & plugs should not have affected the boost

 

[supergripen]

Ess specified a minimum of 96 RON octane for optimal performance. the super premium Vpower that we have at the pump is rated at 98 RoN octane, where else the regular premium fuel like primax3, shell super, tectron gold and synergy F1 is 97 ron, all of them meets the min RON requirement.

darn.. no more 97 ron regular and down grading to 95ron??? !@$!@

yup..that's what i thought,96ron.

anyways,the rumour about 95 and 99ron..well,they're just that,rumours.

we've yet to hear anything from the gov officially on the whole fuel thingy.one thing for sure tho,we'll be getting the shortest straw..

even the diesel quality issue has gone silent.i would actually love a 535d,but what to do..diesel at euro1!!

 

[supergripen]

tested my car yesterday with a passenger and 4/5 full tank and here is what i got:

0-100kmh in 6.75s (0.35s behind ESS claim)
0-200kmh in 22.8s (about 4s slower than this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1S29f5lY2A)

without the passenger and 1/2 full tank i probably can get 6.4s as claimed

taking into account the load u carry,mechanical loss etc..sounds good,tho short of ESS's claims.maybe u should do it at night when the temp is cooler.

were u on manual mode or DS? noticed the youtube vid they were on manual stepmode.autos are so uncool.. a DSG type box would be very very very nice indeedy.

about the boost indication..what type of boost meter are u using presently? i used to have Defis for my STi..they do overread a little,so u do need to allow a little for that.when i do get mine FI'd,i plan to get ARK DESIGN's MFD infometer display.u could display up to 10 parameters at any one time,tho 4 parameters would be ideal.

anyways,for me to dream for now..

 

[ess530i]

taking into account the load u carry,mechanical loss etc..sounds good,tho short of ESS's claims.maybe u should do it at night when the temp is cooler.

were u on manual mode or DS? noticed the youtube vid they were on manual stepmode.autos are so uncool.. a DSG type box would be very very very nice indeedy.

about the boost indication..what type of boost meter are u using presently? i used to have Defis for my STi..they do overread a little,so u do need to allow a little for that.when i do get mine FI'd,i plan to get ARK DESIGN's MFD infometer display.u could display up to 10 parameters at any one time,tho 4 parameters would be ideal.

anyways,for me to dream for now..

i did it at night on a pretty flat road with manual stepmode, forgot to turn off the dsc + tc but i doubt it would help coz it did not wheelspin even on my 225 contisportcontact2 tires

i bought the cheapest boost meter...apexi coz the color matches the instruments and came with the stand. i guess i'll do a dyno soon to find out if my installation was perfect or not, any suggestion on where to do it?

 

[ramsing]

hi ess530i...is your engine the aluminium or magnesium block?? M54 or N52

thanks

 

[ess530i]

hi ess530i...is your engine the aluminium or magnesium block?? M54 or N52

thanks

hi ramsing its the aluminium M54B30 engine...the ESS kit for N52 is not out yet and there may be no plans coz its too high tech

 

[ramsing]

hi ramsing its the aluminium M54B30 engine...the ESS kit for N52 is not out yet and there may be no plans coz its too high tech

thanks for the reply. my frend has a N52 and i told him to be patient for boost so just wanted to double check with you

 

[supergripen]

supercharging the N52 will be a very costly affair i think,especially with the material used in the N52's constuction.chances are,the magnesium alloy component of the N52 won't be able to withstand the increase in abuse that naturally comes with FI,especially the heat component of the equation.

it is possible tho,for instance replacing mag-alloy with steel/alu,but it'll be really costly.makes u wonder if anyone will have the guts to pour in money to develop a kit for these new hightech lower toleranced engines.. to me,these new lightweight engines are best left alone.they are so finely balanced in every way that changing anything might just disrupt that balance,and you'll end up doing more damage than good.

but then again,u never know..

 

[leforte]

supercharging the N52 will be a very costly affair i think,especially with the material used in the N52's constuction.chances are,the magnesium alloy component of the N52 won't be able to withstand the increase in abuse that naturally comes with FI,especially the heat component of the equation.

it is possible tho,for instance replacing mag-alloy with steel/alu,but it'll be really costly.makes u wonder if anyone will have the guts to pour in money to develop a kit for these new hightech lower toleranced engines.. to me,these new lightweight engines are best left alone.they are so finely balanced in every way that changing anything might just disrupt that balance,and you'll end up doing more damage than good.

but then again,u never know..

supercharging / turbocharging the N52 is not going to be a costly affair. a slight modificationto the existing FI hardware to attach it to the block is all it takes. so the cost of physically attaching a FI unit to the N52 is not an issue.

the construction of the N52 is not an issue either. the block is a hybrid construction of an aluminum inner block with a magnesium external shell which is more than strong enough for mild 5-8psi boosting with similar durability as any m54/m52 series engine.

the main issue with FI-ing the N52 lies in the VALVETRONIC system. the N52 opperates without a throttle and its breathing is fully controled by the valves and cams in the cylinder head. in order for the whole setup to work, the DME tuning will be the main hurdle that challenges any tuner. most tuners will not be bothered (except for ALPINA) to take up this challenge due to the fact that the n52 is of a very limited production run and right now with the clear future of it being replaced by the new twin-turbo engines, its just not economically feasible.

i saw a valvetronic e90 that was supercharged locally, and it clearly shows the local tuner knows nothing about the valvetronic system or tuning the car.

 

[supergripen]

while i do agree the Valvetronic system will pose a tuning problem,i do still think the N52's mag-alloy construction is also a major hindrance in FI'ing the engine.true,the magnesium block has an aluminium sleeve lining cast into its internals,but the fact of the matter is,magnesium still makes up a major portion of the equation.magnesium,as we know,while having a better density/weight ratio over steel and aluminium,is not as good at handling heat and pressure.mind,these are major components that are increased when u FI a car.

also,notice that in BMW's twin turbo applications(cue the N54B30),they have reverted back to using an aluminium block with steel internal linings.also note that the twin blowers used in the N54 only pumps out 0.4bars,but yet BMW has deemed it necessary to make another engine solely for the biturbo albeit one that is closely based on the trusty M54.call me silly,but i won't FI an N52,and as it so happens,BMW doesn't too.

i'd love to know what AJ@ESS thinks about all this.

these are just my opinions la..so don't take it too seriously.we are all here to learn..

cheers.

 

[leforte]

my bad...i guess having a hybrid block may eventually post a problem when it comes to vibration from engine knock and heat due to the difference in metallugical qualities and expansion rate. a monocoque construction like the n54 will offer a better safeguard to any possibility of engine failure.

just found some image of the n52 and n54 block ...

 

[ramsing]

ya, looks like a lot of ppl are waiting to see how the mag engines stand up to FI. but it will be interesting to see who comes out with a FI kit first.

but i'm still waiting for someone to do a remote turbo setup in m'sia. it'll be a sight to see a turbo sitting under the rear wheel arch plus come banjir on our wonderful roads....

 

[ess530i]

checked with the guy in the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1S29f5lY2A (very fast ess ts2 530i) he said he changed the differential to a 'shorter' one, original parts from BMW and torque increased 15%. notice his gearings are higher than our stock 525i / 530i. any comments?

i will find out more on the possibilities from our local mechanics on monday...

 

[leforte]

you can try getting a diff from a 520i. direct plug and play.

 

[supergripen]

checked with the guy in the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1S29f5lY2A (very fast ess ts2 530i) he said he changed the differential to a 'shorter' one, original parts from BMW and torque increased 15%. notice his gearings are higher than our stock 525i / 530i. any comments?

i will find out more on the possibilities from our local mechanics on monday...

how much slower is ur car compared to the vid? a shorter/higher diff will give u more 'scoot' but u'll be cruising at a higher rpm at a given ratio/speed thus giving u higher fuel use and also higher noise levels ..so i guess it is a matter of personal choice,what u want ur car to do for u.

finding a ratio that will give u a nice balance between pick-up,driveability,refinement and relative fuel economy should be the way to go.so choose wisely..

on a sidenote,does anyone know if the ratios on an m54 525i the same as one on the m54 530i?

bro,let us know what rear diff u decide on later.good stuff this.. maybe some one should change the name of the topic.

 

[ess530i]

how much slower is ur car compared to the vid? a shorter/higher diff will give u more 'scoot' but u'll be cruising at a higher rpm at a given ratio/speed thus giving u higher fuel use and also higher noise levels ..so i guess it is a matter of personal choice,what u want ur car to do for u.

finding a ratio that will give u a nice balance between pick-up,driveability,refinement and relative fuel economy should be the way to go.so choose wisely..

on a sidenote,does anyone know if the ratios on an m54 525i the same as one on the m54 530i?

bro,let us know what rear diff u decide on later.good stuff this.. maybe some one should change the name of the topic.

my car is a whole lot slower than the car in the vid. my 0-200 is 24s and his is about 18+s. i guess performance (as in acceleration) would be my main priority which is why i got the sc in 1st place. have changed the diff in my previous car and it improved performance tremendously while fuel economy increased negligibly because it also made me drive slower and complying to speed limits hehe. but that was 5-speed so i guess with the 6-speed gearbox it wouldn't hurt increasing the diff ratio slightly.

saw this vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_mOrOfcqIc&feature=related and looking at the speed i think the ratio is different between 525i and 530i and i think the 525i ratio would be ideal for my car for performance. supergripen i think u would enjoy your car after superchargin it, would be very close to a sc'd 530i.

 

[supergripen]

saw this vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_mOrOfcqIc&feature=related and looking at the speed i think the ratio is different between 525i and 530i and i think the 525i ratio would be ideal for my car for performance. supergripen i think u would enjoy your car after superchargin it, would be very close to a sc'd 530i.

..of that i have no doubt:top:

yeah,i guess a lil'bit of ratio change wouldn't hurt enonomy too much.bro,go for it,looking at ur times,u are indeed a fair bit slower than the one in the vid.let us know tha result once u do get the diff.

ESS claims the 525i is just that tiny bit slower than the 530i but in real world driving i'm not too worried about the 0.3s difference.but slower is still slower la..i don't expect to beat a similarly equipped 530i anyways,unless i'm racing in the safe environment of a racing track.now that would be a different story la..but then again,i don't intend to bring my e60 to the track anyways.for that,i would need something else la:rock:

 

[ess530i]

..of that i have no doubt:top:

yeah,i guess a lil'bit of ratio change wouldn't hurt enonomy too much.bro,go for it,looking at ur times,u are indeed a fair bit slower than the one in the vid.let us know tha result once u do get the diff.

ESS claims the 525i is just that tiny bit slower than the 530i but in real world driving i'm not too worried about the 0.3s difference.but slower is still slower la..i don't expect to beat a similarly equipped 530i anyways,unless i'm racing in the safe environment of a racing track.now that would be a different story la..but then again,i don't intend to bring my e60 to the track anyways.for that,i would need something else la:rock:

so here's the result with 525i differential and sprint booster upgrade:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boWJWtwwloY

0-200kmh in about 20s but this is without 'launching' the car from start as i'm not used to the sprint booster yet. i think the 525i diffs are ideal for 530i if you wanna drive a little more aggressively (understand that 530iS is also equipped with similar ratio diffs). no problem at all with top speed or fuel economy as this is a 6-speed gearbox. the RPM is about 2.3k when cruising at 110kmh on 6th. i highly recommend the diffs upgrade for any 530i owners

cant wait to upgrade my suspension and take it to the tracks...

 

[supergripen]

so here's the result with 525i differential and sprint booster upgrade:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boWJWtwwloY

0-200kmh in about 20s but this is without 'launching' the car from start as i'm not used to the sprint booster yet. i think the 525i diffs are ideal for 530i if you wanna drive a little more aggressively (understand that 530iS is also equipped with similar ratio diffs). no problem at all with top speed or fuel economy as this is a 6-speed gearbox. the RPM is about 2.3k when cruising at 110kmh on 6th. i highly recommend the diffs upgrade for any 530i owners

cant wait to upgrade my suspension and take it to the tracks...

wow!! bro..u've done it.:top:

nice supersmooth pick up with turbine-like acceleration..that is one quick e60.damn..i'm forever smitten,I WANT A SUPERCHARGER!!!!!!!!!