Dynamat Extreme

[valkryie]

I can't think of any reason why I would want to rip up an expensive e90 and retrofit an aftermarket noise damping product.

Maybe it will help some lower end or older cars but my guess is that the advantage gained should not worth the risk and hassle of installing dynamat.

If installing dynamat will give you such a big reduction in NVH then BMW engineers and the car itself has serious problems and not worth the premium price that it commands.

Imagine buying a E90 and taking it to the workshop the next day to install dynamat because the car is too noisy (it has to be pretty bad for a person to shelf out additional $$$ to improve the car).

 

[Megabucks38]

I can't think of any reason why I would want to rip up an expensive e90 and retrofit an aftermarket noise damping product.

Maybe it will help some lower end or older cars but my guess is that the advantage gained should not worth the risk and hassle of installing dynamat.

If installing dynamat will give you such a big reduction in NVH then BMW engineers and the car itself has serious problems and not worth the premium price that it commands.

Imagine buying a E90 and taking it to the workshop the next day to install dynamat because the car is too noisy (it has to be pretty bad for a person to shelf out additional $$$ to improve the car).

You don't know what orgasm is unless you have sex!!

First of all, you don't rip up the door panels!! The people installing it are very experience and careful. What risk are you taking about?obviously, a very naive person is commenting somethin which he/she has no experience dealing with.....(You don't know what orgasm is unless you have sex!! get it Mc fly)

The UK spec BMW has much better sound proofing. BMW Malaysia does not give you all the specs and add on because of profit margin. This is because the automobile tax in malaysia is 300%, if BMW add more accessories, 3 series will be priced way above competitors' price. Comprendo !!

You have installed it to believe it, if you have not, I think you are talking nonsense.

 

[E46Fanatic]

The UK spec BMW has much better sound proofing. BMW Malaysia does not give you all the specs and add on because of profit margin. This is because the automobile tax in malaysia is 300%, if BMW add more accessories, 3 series will be priced way above competitors' price. Comprendo !!

Speaking of knowing before speaking, can you explain exactly what is the difference in sound proofing between UK spec BMW vs. our local Spec? What part no's are missing in our cars? I am curious.

 

[Megabucks38]

Speaking of knowing before speaking, can you explain exactly what is the difference in sound proofing between UK spec BMW vs. our local Spec? What part no's are missing in our cars? I am curious.

Instead of me doin home work for you, use your two legs and walk into any dealers that import car from UK, I am sure you can differentiate if you have a sound mind.

 

[Megabucks38]

btw,

our E90 is expensive is simply because of the 300% tax added to it, if not, it will only be selling at RM 60k plus.......

 

[t2ribena]

Instead of me doin home work for you, use your two legs and walk into any dealers that import car from UK, I am sure you can differentiate if you have a sound mind.

how would you like to suggest on the tests that should be carried out to differenciate what you are claiming here? by only using ur ears as test reference? this is subjective to specification of ones ears and no ears are identical human to human...

unless u can show concrete proof here, please refrain making claim here that you cannot proof and being proud of it...

 

[t2ribena]

btw,

our E90 is expensive is simply because of the 300% tax added to it, if not, it will only be selling at RM 60k plus.......

please check first how much is an e90 325 in Germany before u claim that it is RM60k plus...my german colleague's 320d costs him EUR35000 and this is no where near ur price indication even with the removal of the VAT...

 

[Megabucks38]

please check first how much is an e90 325 in Germany before u claim that it is RM60k plus...my german colleague's 320d costs him EUR35000 and this is no where near ur price indication even with the removal of the VAT...

Aiyoh, use the existing tax rate in Malaysia and work backwards. Sometimes, you need a bit of imagination and think out of the box pal!!

as for the sound checking, think out of the box again. everything I have to tell you, life becomes very boring for u, don't u think....

 

[Schwepps]

The import duty used to be 300%...for CBUs above 3000cc. The tax structure has changed substantially to excise duties since AFTA. See http://www.maa.org.my/info_duty.htm#03

A bit too much imagination and mouth, and you fall OFF the box.

 

[valkryie]

You don't know what orgasm is unless you have sex!!

First of all, you don't rip up the door panels!! The people installing it are very experience and careful. What risk are you taking about?obviously, a very naive person is commenting somethin which he/she has no experience dealing with.....(You don't know what orgasm is unless you have sex!! get it Mc fly)

The UK spec BMW has much better sound proofing. BMW Malaysia does not give you all the specs and add on because of profit margin. This is because the automobile tax in malaysia is 300%, if BMW add more accessories, 3 series will be priced way above competitors' price. Comprendo !!

You have installed it to believe it, if you have not, I think you are talking nonsense.

The risk i am talking about is the guarantee by the aftermarket supplier to ensure that the product is safe and does not void my warranty. Usually these are no such guarantee from after market suppliers. Clips can get broken, panels scratched. Ask those who install custom car stereo system.

Even original accessories bought from spare part distrubutors may not carry warranty but if you pay double the price and get it from authorised dealer (say bmw xenon ballast) they offer you a 2 year warranty.

And if you are so happen to be unlucky and got the xenon ballast from unauthorised shop and this xenon ballast develops a problem and fry other stuff then .....

I can't comment whether bmw reduce price by way of removing insulating materials but I do know that E46 sold in different countries comes with different equipments. Some countries have DSC as standard some do not in the entry level 318 car. This can be attributed to cost savings decisions but you really have to ask bmw why E46 318 does not have DSC.

 

[valkryie]

btw,

our E90 is expensive is simply because of the 300% tax added to it, if not, it will only be selling at RM 60k plus.......

Anyhow BMW is a premium brand car and is considered expensive even in USA where it is selling somewhere in the region of USD 30k and higher.

To put it into perspective, a honda civic is about USD 12k or so.

With or without taxation there would still be a gap between the premium car price and 'normal' car price. In a rational world of ecnomics, one would ask if I need to shelf out more than double the price to get a BMW when i get a good quality honda civic for RM 12K x 3.5 = RM 42,000 if there was no taxation. But people who buy bmw are not always rational.

So the point is that either way, BMWs are premium and more expensive cars. Therefore i have higher expectation on their performance, safety, etc over japanese cars because with or without taxation, i will have to pay more than double the honda civic for the BMW.

 

[Megabucks38]

The import duty used to be 300%...for CBUs above 3000cc. The tax structure has changed substantially to excise duties since AFTA. See http://www.maa.org.my/info_duty.htm#03

A bit too much imagination and mouth, and you fall OFF the box.

Obviously, u must switch on your brain first before imagination kicks in. IT IS NOT IMPLEMENTED yet ......... Have you seen the breakdown of cost from AB whne you buy the car. Obviously NOT....

 

[Megabucks38]

The risk i am talking about is the guarantee by the aftermarket supplier to ensure that the product is safe and does not void my warranty. Usually these are no such guarantee from after market suppliers. Clips can get broken, panels scratched. Ask those who install custom car stereo system.

Even original accessories bought from spare part distrubutors may not carry warranty but if you pay double the price and get it from authorised dealer (say bmw xenon ballast) they offer you a 2 year warranty.

And if you are so happen to be unlucky and got the xenon ballast from unauthorised shop and this xenon ballast develops a problem and fry other stuff then .....

I can't comment whether bmw reduce price by way of removing insulating materials but I do know that E46 sold in different countries comes with different equipments. Some countries have DSC as standard some do not in the entry level 318 car. This can be attributed to cost savings decisions but you really have to ask bmw why E46 318 does not have DSC.

thanks for the comment, actually, why do you have the impression that installing Dynamet takes such a big endeavour that threathen to void your warranty? Trust me, its a very simple procedure, plus, there is wire cut or electrical connection installed.!!!! what's the fuss.... lets not split hair shall we.

 

[Schwepps]

BMW buyers may not always be rational, but we're not easily fooled. We know when a celebrity endorses a product to the public, he's being paid for it. So Federer only plays with Wilson rackets, Hamilton only wears Tag Heuer, Ronaldo only scores with Nike boots...and Jay Leno only uses Dynamat in all his cars.

 

[Megabucks38]

valkryie

Sorry, type error, NO wire cut or electrical connection installed. I say again NO, NO NO wire cut

 

[Schwepps]

Obviously, u must switch on your brain first before imagination kicks in. IT IS NOT IMPLEMENTED yet ......... Have you seen the breakdown of cost from AB whne you buy the car. Obviously NOT....

Do your own homework. Take a look at your breakdown and tell us what you see.

 

[Megabucks38]

BMW buyers may not always be rational, but we're not easily fooled. We know when a celebrity endorses a product to the public, he's being paid for it. So Federer only plays with Wilson rackets, Hamilton only wears Tag Heuer, Ronaldo only scores with Nike boots...and Jay Leno only uses Dynamat in all his cars.

that's why you don't follow blindly, find out from those who have done it, use your five senses and evaluate.

 

[Megabucks38]

Do your own homework. Take a look at your breakdown and tell us what you see.

I have done mine and greatly satisfied!! I am at peace with myself.

 

[jarance]

that's why you don't follow blindly, find out from those who have done it, use your five senses and evaluate.

Sound level is determined by hearing. Vibration is by feeling or touch.

Why the need to use the 5 senses.

 

[t2ribena]

Aiyoh, use the existing tax rate in Malaysia and work backwards. Sometimes, you need a bit of imagination and think out of the box pal!!

as for the sound checking, think out of the box again. everything I have to tell you, life becomes very boring for u, don't u think....

that still does not change the fact that u cannot get a new e90 at rm60k even without the tax in other countries...or i have to use my imagination for this??? so in imagination world we could buy it at rm60k right? ok trying to imagine...shit can coz u are the only one that can turn on your brain...mine shutdown long ago...shit

and for sound checking...think out of the box...wow so typical last time when i ask someone wat he has been boasting about on a further information, typical question is use ur brain or think out of the box or ur ur imagination...u are one of them....

please dun give me those shit about bringing ur own sound level meter and audio analyzer ok!!??

ya ya i know liau...knock test right??? hahahahahaa ROTFLOL

wat an arrogant joker...