Accord 2.0 or Camry 2.0
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Care to share your experience why you came to conclusion that Camry is more reliable than the Honda? If Honda really have a reliable issue, then I'd better stay away from it (thus making my choice easier).
It appears that the Accord seems to have a slightly higher compression ratio (10.6:1) as opposed to that of Camry (9.8:1). How significant is that in terms of performance comparison, I really don't know and was hoping to be enlightened. Also the Accord seems to yield 115kW @ 6300 rpm whilst the Camry's numbers is a tad lower at 108kW @ 6000rpm. However the Camry has a 190Nm of torque @ 4000 rpm whilst the Accord at 189Nm @ 4300rpm. Now, I know I don't drive up to 6000 rpm often so the slightly higher hp on the Accord is probably not such a relevant consideration. But I would love to have more low end torque. So, can a novice driver like me really feel the difference of 1 Nm between the two models? not forgetting the fact that the Accord is 25kg heavier than the Camry.
It appears that the Accord seems to have a slightly higher compression ratio (10.6:1) as opposed to that of Camry (9.8:1). How significant is that in terms of performance comparison, I really don't know and was hoping to be enlightened. Also the Accord seems to yield 115kW @ 6300 rpm whilst the Camry's numbers is a tad lower at 108kW @ 6000rpm. However the Camry has a 190Nm of torque @ 4000 rpm whilst the Accord at 189Nm @ 4300rpm. Now, I know I don't drive up to 6000 rpm often so the slightly higher hp on the Accord is probably not such a relevant consideration. But I would love to have more low end torque. So, can a novice driver like me really feel the difference of 1 Nm between the two models? not forgetting the fact that the Accord is 25kg heavier than the Camry.
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Wah, c-segi, long time no see. Now want to get new car....:top:
Accord? Camry? 2 tough choices, basically it all depends on what you want with the new car. Performance and handling? Comfort? If performance and handling, then Accord. Comfort, then Camry. Just wanna drive a newer model, then Accord. But if it was me? I would go for a Camry. Me prefer the looks and comfort level of a Camry. But don't expect to push the Camry too hard... it performs like a "barge". I have my E34 for that spirited driving.:rock:
Accord? Camry? 2 tough choices, basically it all depends on what you want with the new car. Performance and handling? Comfort? If performance and handling, then Accord. Comfort, then Camry. Just wanna drive a newer model, then Accord. But if it was me? I would go for a Camry. Me prefer the looks and comfort level of a Camry. But don't expect to push the Camry too hard... it performs like a "barge". I have my E34 for that spirited driving.:rock:
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I tried 'em both
Hi dudes
I was oso thinking of upgrading to a brand new car from my e39. Went to Klang Honda (2 weeks ago) and found the latest 2.4 Accord to be too hard and displayed sloppy cornering. This is opposite to my unmodified e39 which is soft and definitely superior cornering. Except for the beautiful dashboard in the Accord, I was underwhelmed.
In April, I went Toyota in SS15 Subang. The 2.4 Camry is abit softer than the Accord. More comfortable. My wife likes it too. But what I did not expect is the cornering ability. It works wonderfully well for a Japanese car. Seem that Toyota got their VSC electronics spot on. Overall, I feel my e39 which is mantained regularly has a more solid build and feel when driving.
What I found common in both brands (Honda and Toyota) is their idling. At traffic lights when the car is in D mode, you can feel a slight vibration. In our Bmw, it can happen only if there is a problem with the coil. I asked the salesmen. One said it is because a lot of people used the car and the other at Toyota said all engines are like that, no such thing as cannot feel one lah.
My wife is not keen on changing for the time being.:motz:
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Hi dudes
I was oso thinking of upgrading to a brand new car from my e39. Went to Klang Honda (2 weeks ago) and found the latest 2.4 Accord to be too hard and displayed sloppy cornering. This is opposite to my unmodified e39 which is soft and definitely superior cornering. Except for the beautiful dashboard in the Accord, I was underwhelmed.
In April, I went Toyota in SS15 Subang. The 2.4 Camry is abit softer than the Accord. More comfortable. My wife likes it too. But what I did not expect is the cornering ability. It works wonderfully well for a Japanese car. Seem that Toyota got their VSC electronics spot on. Overall, I feel my e39 which is mantained regularly has a more solid build and feel when driving.
What I found common in both brands (Honda and Toyota) is their idling. At traffic lights when the car is in D mode, you can feel a slight vibration. In our Bmw, it can happen only if there is a problem with the coil. I asked the salesmen. One said it is because a lot of people used the car and the other at Toyota said all engines are like that, no such thing as cannot feel one lah.
My wife is not keen on changing for the time being.:motz:
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Brand new Camry or Accord? For the same price or less, I'll get a BMW. Thats what I did. An 02/03 e39, with the latest 6 cylinder engine & steptronic GB upgrade.
The newness and freshness will only be there for a short time. All Oriental parts are slight inferior in quality but more reliable. The best part is the Air-cond, and this seems to be BMW common flaw.
1 year ownership down the road, after the new car smells gone. You will still be driving a Toyota or Honda. Design wise, tell me you'll choose past Camry & Accord over an e34 or e39?
One thing for sure, Jap car, cost of ownership is definitely lower, cos, you simply ignore them a few years down the road. In a BMW, you know that it perform and handles better when everything is maintained well.
Finally, if have to choose between Camry and Accord. I somehow never thought of owning a Toyota. Not sure its because they build every damn things that move on the road. Make hell lots of money while perfecting their manufacturing process and mass produced a single model for global market. Honda! They really specialize in making cars like BMW. Guess I'll be driving a Merc now, if I want comfort.
The newness and freshness will only be there for a short time. All Oriental parts are slight inferior in quality but more reliable. The best part is the Air-cond, and this seems to be BMW common flaw.
1 year ownership down the road, after the new car smells gone. You will still be driving a Toyota or Honda. Design wise, tell me you'll choose past Camry & Accord over an e34 or e39?
One thing for sure, Jap car, cost of ownership is definitely lower, cos, you simply ignore them a few years down the road. In a BMW, you know that it perform and handles better when everything is maintained well.
Finally, if have to choose between Camry and Accord. I somehow never thought of owning a Toyota. Not sure its because they build every damn things that move on the road. Make hell lots of money while perfecting their manufacturing process and mass produced a single model for global market. Honda! They really specialize in making cars like BMW. Guess I'll be driving a Merc now, if I want comfort.
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Everyone has a different priority list which seldom agree with wish list. If drivability is not high on your priority list, perhaps more towards your wish list, then you should be able to decide intelligently.
Seeking advise from people that place "drivability" on their priority list while financial independence in only on their wish list, then u will vomit blood! or more confused ..
Seeking advise from people that place "drivability" on their priority list while financial independence in only on their wish list, then u will vomit blood! or more confused ..
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Sat in the new camry's driver seat & examined the car externally. Hearbeat normal.
Sat in the new Accord driver's seat & eaxamined the car externally. Sat as passenger. Hearbeat normal.
Sat in the BMW driver's seat & just by looking at it.... heartbeat damn fast
Sat in the new Accord driver's seat & eaxamined the car externally. Sat as passenger. Hearbeat normal.
Sat in the BMW driver's seat & just by looking at it.... heartbeat damn fast
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Never compared Honda/Toyota with BMW. It is not an apple to apple comparison. So stop comparing and giving review between a Honda/Toyota with a BMW.
I have tested the Accord 2.4 and find that it is more towards performance car. However it is a bit sluggish but perform well during high speed cornering. As for Camry 2.4, it is slight powerful during pick up. It has more low end torque as compare to Accord 2.4. Camry is much more comfortable than Accord. Never tested the handling as the Camry is my friend's car and wherelse the Accord is a demo car
I have tested the Accord 2.4 and find that it is more towards performance car. However it is a bit sluggish but perform well during high speed cornering. As for Camry 2.4, it is slight powerful during pick up. It has more low end torque as compare to Accord 2.4. Camry is much more comfortable than Accord. Never tested the handling as the Camry is my friend's car and wherelse the Accord is a demo car
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Appriciate all your opinions, guys. I know we are all passionate about the Bimmer marque and their attractiveness in terms of styling and performance is undoubtedly second to none. What I was trying to get at is that assuming there is only 2 cars, ie the Accord 2.0 and the Camry 2.0, to choose from (and hypothetically BMWs are non-existance) which one would you grudgingly go for?
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David Yong;332851 said:Never compared Honda/Toyota with BMW. It is not an apple to apple comparison. So stop comparing and giving review between a Honda/Toyota with a BMW.
I have tested the Accord 2.4 and find that it is more towards performance car. However it is a bit sluggish but perform well during high speed cornering. As for Camry 2.4, it is slight powerful during pick up. It has more low end torque as compare to Accord 2.4. Camry is much more comfortable than Accord. Never tested the handling as the Camry is my friend's car and wherelse the Accord is a demo car
David, you mentioned something interesting here, in that the Camry tend to have better low end torque than the Accord. Do you know where I can get hold of the troque curve chart for both the Camry and Accord to compare these figures side by side? :top:
