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<blockquote data-quote="Jules" data-source="post: 460985" data-attributes="member: 88"><p>I know this stretch fairly well.....so I dun think the road is to be blamed and overgeneralisation wun us get anywhere. In fact Malaysian roads.....are one of the better ones in the world ( not best ) and this is said with experience of driving on UK, European and Australian roads. ( & plenty more backseat driving in foreign places.. )</p><p> </p><p>I do agree, what could have prevented the secondary crashes ( bus onto headon with others ) is the 2 line of amco barriers should have stopped the 1st bus from going into the opposite side.... I recall plenty planted scrubs on the median strip between the lanes but that can be easily mowed down by any vehicle.</p><p> </p><p>Speeding could be one factor as there is a long uphill straight and a slight left bend just before this downhill part.....so he was probably carrying more speed to go up the hill. I dun know exactly where he went off but I do think its a straight section with a very slight downhill slope.</p><p> </p><p>Mechanical failure? maybe. Driver error? likely too but let's not speculate until the investigations done. </p><p> </p><p>I do strongly believe that all trucks & buses should be governed/restricted to a max speed and also not overloaded till extend they are crawling up a uphill section on the slow lane. Anyone familiar with Gua Tempurung stretch northbound and also the Taiping-Jelapang stretches southbound will know what i mean! Too slow a speed can kill too.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Guys - out of respect to the deceased, please do not put website links with graphic pictures of the dead. I think the families are already in enough trauma and such horrific images wun help heal anyone. Sorry, just my suggestion.</p><p> </p><p>Drive safely, take care.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jules, post: 460985, member: 88"] I know this stretch fairly well.....so I dun think the road is to be blamed and overgeneralisation wun us get anywhere. In fact Malaysian roads.....are one of the better ones in the world ( not best ) and this is said with experience of driving on UK, European and Australian roads. ( & plenty more backseat driving in foreign places.. ) I do agree, what could have prevented the secondary crashes ( bus onto headon with others ) is the 2 line of amco barriers should have stopped the 1st bus from going into the opposite side.... I recall plenty planted scrubs on the median strip between the lanes but that can be easily mowed down by any vehicle. Speeding could be one factor as there is a long uphill straight and a slight left bend just before this downhill part.....so he was probably carrying more speed to go up the hill. I dun know exactly where he went off but I do think its a straight section with a very slight downhill slope. Mechanical failure? maybe. Driver error? likely too but let's not speculate until the investigations done. I do strongly believe that all trucks & buses should be governed/restricted to a max speed and also not overloaded till extend they are crawling up a uphill section on the slow lane. Anyone familiar with Gua Tempurung stretch northbound and also the Taiping-Jelapang stretches southbound will know what i mean! Too slow a speed can kill too. Guys - out of respect to the deceased, please do not put website links with graphic pictures of the dead. I think the families are already in enough trauma and such horrific images wun help heal anyone. Sorry, just my suggestion. Drive safely, take care. [/QUOTE]
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