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<blockquote data-quote="X5madani" data-source="post: 333752" data-attributes="member: 15941"><p>Diesel Quality</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><em><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: Red">Let us ponder what we have in Malaysia compare to our neighbouring countries; Thailand and Singapore in terms of quality diesel.</span></span></em>[/I]</p><p></p><p>This is what quoted by Paul Tan about Shell diesel product in Malaysia; <span style="color: Navy">(<a href="http://paultan.org/archives/2008/08/14/shell-launches-new-diesel-fuel-with-improved-formula/" target="_blank">http://paultan.org/archives/2008/08/14/shell-launches-new-diesel-fuel-with-improved-formula/</a>)</span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'"><em>As for sulphur levels, Shell Malaysia says the diesel fuel is compliant with Malaysia’s current MS123 diesel standards. The previous proposal by the government to bring our fuel quality up to Euro II has been postponed. MS123 calls for a maximum sulphur content of 3000ppm while Euro II calls for a max of 500ppm.</em></span></p><p></p><p><em><span style="color: red"><span style="font-size: 12px">Now, let us see what Shell Singapore says about diesel quality in that tiny island;</span></span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'">September 24, 2005 </span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'">Shell Diesel Comes Clean.</span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'"></span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'">SHELL HAS INTRODUCED Ultra-Low Sulphur Diesel at fuel stations across the island, as part of an initiative to improve air quality in Singapore.</span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'"></span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'">The fuel’s sulphur content is below 50 parts per million, making it 10 times cleaner than diesel from rival petrol companies, and about 100 times cleaner than diesel from Malaysia.</span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'"></span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'">Using the new fuel in an existing diesel car could cut emissions of noxious gases like nitrous oxides and carbon monoxide by over 70 percent, and reduce particulate matter (PM) emissions by as much as 80 percent.</span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'"></span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'">PM2.5, or particulates smaller than 2.5 microns, are a problem in Singapore, says National Environment Agency chairman Simon Tay. Our air doesn’t meet international guidelines for healthy levels of PM2.5, which is linked to illnesses like bronchitis and asthma. “We’re failing,” says Professor Tay candidly, adding that diesel vehicles are responsible for half the amount</span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'">of PM2.5 in the air.</span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'"></span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'">Shell’s move should bring us closer to passing. Sulphur molecules are large and tend to agglomerate, adding to PM emissions, Shell’s Eric Holthusen told CarBuyer. This means ULS diesel is cleaner in itself. </span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'"></span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'">Its introduction also paves the way for Euro4-compliant diesel engines to be used here. These have fine soot filters which would become clogged if used with regular diesel. Currently, the only such cars here are Mercedes-Benz E 220 CD and Skoda Superb 2.5 TDI taxis. Singapore is the first country in the region to have both the cars and fuel necessary for Euro4 compliance.</span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'"></span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'">At $1.098 per litre, Shell’s ULS diesel costs nothing extra over rival fuels, despite the fact that it costs more to produce. Mr Holthusen says removing the sulphur is “an expensive process”, involving an extra step at the refinery. Shell’s launch comes a full year ahead of the October 2006 deadline for mandatory introduction of ULS diesel in Singapore. (<a href="http://www.carbuyer.com.sg/2005/09/24/shell-diesel-comes-clean/" target="_blank">http://www.carbuyer.com.sg/2005/09/24/shell-diesel-comes-clean/</a>).</span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'"></span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'"></span></em></p><p><span style="color: Red">Now, let us check what our Malaysian friend says about Petronas diesel, (<a href="http://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/9303" target="_blank">http://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/9303</a>)</span></p><p></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'">It is now proven by all European Governments that modern car turbodiesel engines (Euro 3 and Euro 4 standards) are more efficient and less polluting (CO emission per km) compared to similar vehicles with similar petrol engine capacity. Nearly all European car manufacturers are now pushing more diesel engines. Even Honda and Toyota produce very efficent small and large cc diesel engines.</span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'"></span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'">Why are the current diesel cars in Malaysia emitting thick black smoke? Firstly, because the engines in them are about 10 to 20 years old. On the newer enginers, like the Mercedes 320 Cdi and BMW 530d, don't blame the vehicles, blame the dirty diesel if you still see thick black smoke. Our diesel has heavy sulphur content and it is this sulphur that causes a car to emit thick black smoke.</span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'"></span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'">The diesel engine car is very efficient. So, now, if you spend RM100 and it gave you about 400KM, with Diesel, you spend the same RM100 (assuming Diesel and Petrol is the same price) and yet, you get about 700 to 800 KM of mileage.</span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'"></span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'">Why isn't Petronas or the Government promoting cleaner diesel and also diesel Cars?</span></em></p><p></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="font-size: 12px">What choice do I have??</span></span></p><p></p><p>Regards with sad smiles<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite3" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":(" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="X5madani, post: 333752, member: 15941"] Diesel Quality [I][SIZE="3"][COLOR="Red"]Let us ponder what we have in Malaysia compare to our neighbouring countries; Thailand and Singapore in terms of quality diesel.[/COLOR][/SIZE][COLOR="Red"][/COLOR][/I][/I] This is what quoted by Paul Tan about Shell diesel product in Malaysia; [COLOR="Navy"]([url]http://paultan.org/archives/2008/08/14/shell-launches-new-diesel-fuel-with-improved-formula/[/url])[/COLOR] [FONT="Comic Sans MS"][I]As for sulphur levels, Shell Malaysia says the diesel fuel is compliant with Malaysia’s current MS123 diesel standards. The previous proposal by the government to bring our fuel quality up to Euro II has been postponed. MS123 calls for a maximum sulphur content of 3000ppm while Euro II calls for a max of 500ppm.[/I][/FONT] [I][COLOR="red"][SIZE="3"]Now, let us see what Shell Singapore says about diesel quality in that tiny island;[/SIZE][/COLOR][/I] [I][FONT="Comic Sans MS"]September 24, 2005 Shell Diesel Comes Clean. SHELL HAS INTRODUCED Ultra-Low Sulphur Diesel at fuel stations across the island, as part of an initiative to improve air quality in Singapore. The fuel’s sulphur content is below 50 parts per million, making it 10 times cleaner than diesel from rival petrol companies, and about 100 times cleaner than diesel from Malaysia. Using the new fuel in an existing diesel car could cut emissions of noxious gases like nitrous oxides and carbon monoxide by over 70 percent, and reduce particulate matter (PM) emissions by as much as 80 percent. PM2.5, or particulates smaller than 2.5 microns, are a problem in Singapore, says National Environment Agency chairman Simon Tay. Our air doesn’t meet international guidelines for healthy levels of PM2.5, which is linked to illnesses like bronchitis and asthma. “We’re failing,” says Professor Tay candidly, adding that diesel vehicles are responsible for half the amount of PM2.5 in the air. Shell’s move should bring us closer to passing. Sulphur molecules are large and tend to agglomerate, adding to PM emissions, Shell’s Eric Holthusen told CarBuyer. This means ULS diesel is cleaner in itself. Its introduction also paves the way for Euro4-compliant diesel engines to be used here. These have fine soot filters which would become clogged if used with regular diesel. Currently, the only such cars here are Mercedes-Benz E 220 CD and Skoda Superb 2.5 TDI taxis. Singapore is the first country in the region to have both the cars and fuel necessary for Euro4 compliance. At $1.098 per litre, Shell’s ULS diesel costs nothing extra over rival fuels, despite the fact that it costs more to produce. Mr Holthusen says removing the sulphur is “an expensive process”, involving an extra step at the refinery. Shell’s launch comes a full year ahead of the October 2006 deadline for mandatory introduction of ULS diesel in Singapore. ([url]http://www.carbuyer.com.sg/2005/09/24/shell-diesel-comes-clean/[/url]). [/FONT][/I] [COLOR="Red"]Now, let us check what our Malaysian friend says about Petronas diesel, ([url]http://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/9303[/url])[/COLOR] [I][FONT="Comic Sans MS"]It is now proven by all European Governments that modern car turbodiesel engines (Euro 3 and Euro 4 standards) are more efficient and less polluting (CO emission per km) compared to similar vehicles with similar petrol engine capacity. Nearly all European car manufacturers are now pushing more diesel engines. Even Honda and Toyota produce very efficent small and large cc diesel engines. Why are the current diesel cars in Malaysia emitting thick black smoke? Firstly, because the engines in them are about 10 to 20 years old. On the newer enginers, like the Mercedes 320 Cdi and BMW 530d, don't blame the vehicles, blame the dirty diesel if you still see thick black smoke. Our diesel has heavy sulphur content and it is this sulphur that causes a car to emit thick black smoke. The diesel engine car is very efficient. So, now, if you spend RM100 and it gave you about 400KM, with Diesel, you spend the same RM100 (assuming Diesel and Petrol is the same price) and yet, you get about 700 to 800 KM of mileage. Why isn't Petronas or the Government promoting cleaner diesel and also diesel Cars?[/FONT][/I] [COLOR="red"][SIZE="3"]What choice do I have??[/SIZE][/COLOR] Regards with sad smiles:( [/QUOTE]
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