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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lee36328" data-source="post: 126929" data-attributes="member: 113">Well said, whl.I tend to agree w this premise.If we think the wind noise is bad for the e36 or e46, try any older Porsche 911, or Lotus Elise and compare.  Wind noise can also be considered as one of the feedback forming the driving experience, similar to engine noise (no sports car owners will want their engine insulated until it is silent, for example.)If a performance-oriented car becomes totally silent, whisper quiet, purists will start to complain that the experience is clinically sanitized compromising its raison d’être.When BMW 'created' or at the very least, emphatically redefined the category of the sports sedan w the introduction of the 3er, it bridged the gap between performance and practicality.  Of course, you can't have the best of both worlds.  Sports freak will complain about the lack of performance, comfort seekers will complain about the excess wind noise.  Which is why we have this discussion today.  And why comparing the 3 or the 5 w Camry and others misses the point, if you don't mind my saying so.Tried the Z4 recently?  It was so metalically whisper-smooth, I felt I was playing GT4 on my PS2 - oddly detached.  Which is also the feeling I get from the recent models of the udm.  Which may explain why there are legions of die-hard break-down-constantly-but-sounds-gorgeous-alfa fans....</blockquote>