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<blockquote data-quote="Iylia H" data-source="post: 630984" data-attributes="member: 18548"><p>1. I didn't say anything about a 'kong' engine. I only question if it runs out of petrol the consequence will be as such. and if an EV runs out of battery while driving in the middle of nowhere, how are u to charge the battery pack while your car is stranded in the middle of nowhere. Even if the petrol station in between selangor and negeri sembilan is 10 miles away, enough to make you die, you can still get petrol. Say in the future you're stuck in a situation like this, you best bet is a tow truck. Now how much would that cost just for a little problem of the EV not having enough juice to reach the nearest charging point.</p><p></p><p>2. And as u mentioned it cost RM5-10k just for the battery pack is almost equivalent to swapping to a petrol engine. Then, what's the cost if both engine and Battery pack dies? And I will ask you this question back, will it still cost you less than RM10K?</p><p></p><p>3. Hydrogen for vehicles is not something that you can produce in your backyard. You need a large strong tank to store the liquified hydrogen which is under high preasure. And the process to compress the hydrogen gas to liquid is not something a backyard ordinary joe could do. On that point, I believe we still need company like petronas to offer us that service. I don't see any disruption of economy flow.</p><p></p><p>4. Most people use EV thinking that it will save the environment. But the process of making one lithium ion pack is much more detrimental to the environment than a normal petrol engine to be constructed and to be run in its life time. Furthermore with all those anti rare-earth mining protest, which is the source of EV battery. And the bulk of electrics are not produced through ecological way, it is either by coal powered generator as in malaysia, or nuclear powered. Hydro-dams and windmill doesn't give you that much output. coupled with the loss of energy of transferring electrics through hundreds of kilometers of wires. </p><p></p><p>5. I'm not discrediting EV cars entirely. I just think, it shouldn't be brought into the country in a haste. It is nowhere near the benchmark of a fully petrol car yet. Nor it is near the benchmark of a hybrid, let alone a diesel. Even if BMW currently has these concept EV cars and with all the hype about it, they're not even out yet. Bet they gave the same reason as I did. The biggest anchor to EV cars is the lack of range and charging time. If these factors could be tamed, I see no problem with EV cars.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Iylia H, post: 630984, member: 18548"] 1. I didn't say anything about a 'kong' engine. I only question if it runs out of petrol the consequence will be as such. and if an EV runs out of battery while driving in the middle of nowhere, how are u to charge the battery pack while your car is stranded in the middle of nowhere. Even if the petrol station in between selangor and negeri sembilan is 10 miles away, enough to make you die, you can still get petrol. Say in the future you're stuck in a situation like this, you best bet is a tow truck. Now how much would that cost just for a little problem of the EV not having enough juice to reach the nearest charging point. 2. And as u mentioned it cost RM5-10k just for the battery pack is almost equivalent to swapping to a petrol engine. Then, what's the cost if both engine and Battery pack dies? And I will ask you this question back, will it still cost you less than RM10K? 3. Hydrogen for vehicles is not something that you can produce in your backyard. You need a large strong tank to store the liquified hydrogen which is under high preasure. And the process to compress the hydrogen gas to liquid is not something a backyard ordinary joe could do. On that point, I believe we still need company like petronas to offer us that service. I don't see any disruption of economy flow. 4. Most people use EV thinking that it will save the environment. But the process of making one lithium ion pack is much more detrimental to the environment than a normal petrol engine to be constructed and to be run in its life time. Furthermore with all those anti rare-earth mining protest, which is the source of EV battery. And the bulk of electrics are not produced through ecological way, it is either by coal powered generator as in malaysia, or nuclear powered. Hydro-dams and windmill doesn't give you that much output. coupled with the loss of energy of transferring electrics through hundreds of kilometers of wires. 5. I'm not discrediting EV cars entirely. I just think, it shouldn't be brought into the country in a haste. It is nowhere near the benchmark of a fully petrol car yet. Nor it is near the benchmark of a hybrid, let alone a diesel. Even if BMW currently has these concept EV cars and with all the hype about it, they're not even out yet. Bet they gave the same reason as I did. The biggest anchor to EV cars is the lack of range and charging time. If these factors could be tamed, I see no problem with EV cars. [/QUOTE]
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