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<blockquote data-quote="Lee36328" data-source="post: 213046" data-attributes="member: 113"><p>No worries mate. Constructive debates over different opinions are not only healthy, it's how we all improve.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Yes, you can. One of the choices I highlighted was... do nothing. Whatever path you pursue, you live with the consequences, as we all do, right?</p><p> </p><p>If the club is well run, complaints wil be minimal, and you can join and support and enjoy what the club gives back. If there is a lot of complaint, then... what? How about this concept. When something is given to you FREE, you have NO RIGHT TO COMPLAIN. You can choose to throw it away though. Or turn it into something you prefer.</p><p> </p><p>Actually, Lionel is not a good example of complaining and doing nothing. He is a shining example of exercising the power of choice - he has started an e36 group which meets regularly for TT. And since I am driving e36, he has actually done me some good.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Err... My apologies, can't comment on this, not aware of the full details.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Good point. Some have exercised their right to up and leave, and start another community, like our emminent bretheren, Mr Lionel Koh. More power to people like him, whose group I also join in from time to time when I can.</p><p> </p><p>So please, do voice out your complaints, <strong>LOUD AND CLEAR</strong>. I assure you, it will be heard. But, don't just complain, ya? Get involved and be part of the <strong>SOLUTION</strong>.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>The club comprises paying members, who in turn shapes and decides what the club should do. So, again, it is <strong>UP TO THE PEOPLE (who join as members.)</strong> </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Err... RM300 while not a princely sum, is also not an insignificant amount of money. To me, that is a form of commitment. So, by definition, all members are committed people, at least to the tune of RM300.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Yes, that's why when I take a flight, I literally <strong>sit back </strong>as you say, and enjoy the flight. I do not come up to the captain and complain about how he is piloting the plane, why the sun is shining on my side of the seat, why the airstewardess not pretty, etc. I choose the airline I want, and my choice ends there. When I am in a club or forum however, if I do not like something I see, I voice it out. If I can do something about it, I do. Or I join/start another club. Or I do nothing and fade away, never coming back. Again, choice.</p><p> </p><p>As it applies to the world at large, what we do about the club is in all our hands. And that includes doing nothing, which some of us prefer.</p><p> </p><p>But for those of us who want to make a difference, your inputs are most welcomed.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lee36328, post: 213046, member: 113"] No worries mate. Constructive debates over different opinions are not only healthy, it's how we all improve. Yes, you can. One of the choices I highlighted was... do nothing. Whatever path you pursue, you live with the consequences, as we all do, right? If the club is well run, complaints wil be minimal, and you can join and support and enjoy what the club gives back. If there is a lot of complaint, then... what? How about this concept. When something is given to you FREE, you have NO RIGHT TO COMPLAIN. You can choose to throw it away though. Or turn it into something you prefer. Actually, Lionel is not a good example of complaining and doing nothing. He is a shining example of exercising the power of choice - he has started an e36 group which meets regularly for TT. And since I am driving e36, he has actually done me some good. Err... My apologies, can't comment on this, not aware of the full details. Good point. Some have exercised their right to up and leave, and start another community, like our emminent bretheren, Mr Lionel Koh. More power to people like him, whose group I also join in from time to time when I can. So please, do voice out your complaints, [B]LOUD AND CLEAR[/B]. I assure you, it will be heard. But, don't just complain, ya? Get involved and be part of the [B]SOLUTION[/B]. The club comprises paying members, who in turn shapes and decides what the club should do. So, again, it is [B]UP TO THE PEOPLE (who join as members.)[/B] Err... RM300 while not a princely sum, is also not an insignificant amount of money. To me, that is a form of commitment. So, by definition, all members are committed people, at least to the tune of RM300. Yes, that's why when I take a flight, I literally [B]sit back [/B]as you say, and enjoy the flight. I do not come up to the captain and complain about how he is piloting the plane, why the sun is shining on my side of the seat, why the airstewardess not pretty, etc. I choose the airline I want, and my choice ends there. When I am in a club or forum however, if I do not like something I see, I voice it out. If I can do something about it, I do. Or I join/start another club. Or I do nothing and fade away, never coming back. Again, choice. As it applies to the world at large, what we do about the club is in all our hands. And that includes doing nothing, which some of us prefer. But for those of us who want to make a difference, your inputs are most welcomed. [/QUOTE]
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