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Message: <blockquote data-quote="1+2=3" data-source="post: 212942" data-attributes="member: 3028">lee, i've met you several times, and honestly, have no issues with you. and same with you sith. I only speak from my own personal experiences, and have my own conclusions. I consider myself somewhat neutral, as I'm new to the bmw community, and do not know of past history as you(lee) have mentioned. As lionel said, Cant the club take into consideration that NOT everyone who joins, wants to vote someone else into office cause they dont like the way its run now, or to even run for office themselves? I want to join a club, and be able to give support, and enjoy what the club can give back to me, without having to worry about other issues like politics?.  One of my issues is, I think committee members have to set a good example. having a slanging match with someone else on the forum in full view of everyone doesn't exactly make a good impression on a newbie, no matter how frustrating or difficult.. or whatever. sith: regardless of where people originated from, i think thats not the point. but if you have people who have originated from bmwcm, and now are migrating away, that should be the issue the club should be concentrating on. They should answer the questions of themselves.. why are people leaving? why are newbies complaining..  Doesnt the club want to win them back? and to win more new members. honestly lee, it will be impossible for a club to run by just thinking it only wants committed members. There is no such club in the world in my opinion. There will always be the ones who are vocal, who lead, and the ones who sit back, and just want to enjoy the benefits.</blockquote>

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