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<blockquote data-quote="seech" data-source="post: 212423" data-attributes="member: 4572"><p>Hi All,</p><p></p><p>Firstly, I've always thought of bmwclubmalaysia.com as THE BMW club. The forum members have always been ever ready to offer their advice for FREE. I'm not entirely certain that these latest developments are for the best of the club.</p><p></p><p>IF the forum is meant for people who love BMW's whether they own one or not, for BMW lovers to swap info and help each other out, for BMW enthusiast to just hang out online and share their views with other BMW enthusiast then I think this latest measure to 'encourage' people to join the club had failed.</p><p></p><p>From a BMW owner myself, I have gotten plenty of good advice form fellow forummers and hopefully I have also been able help out some of the other BMW forummers. It is quite dissapointing to hear about this latest measure to get people to officially join the club. Personally, it feels more like blackmail to me.</p><p></p><p>"You MUST join the club or you don't get to use the forum".</p><p></p><p>Anyway, like those that have posted comments on this issue before me, those in charge have every right to do so as it is indeed up to the individual to decide whether they want to officially join the club or not.</p><p></p><p>However, don't you think it is a bit counter productive IF the objective is to encourage more members to join the club? IF the objective is to restrict or reduce membership to an elite group of BMW owners then this method would probably achieve that objective.</p><p></p><p>IF the objective is to get more people to join the club and be seen as the definitive BMW club in Malaysia then don't you think opening the forum up to ANYONE who has registered online would be better? I'm sure not everyone on this forum is a BMW owner. I'm sure some are looking to buy a BMW sometime in the future and some are just passionate about BMW's. BUT I'm sure ALL of the forummers love BMW's or they would not be forum members. Why is bmwclubmalaysia shutting the door to all these individuals? Do you really think that those who are not BMW owners would want to officially join the club BEFORE they have bought a BMW? What would they drive to the clubs events etc.? Would they even be allowed to join in since they don't have a BMW? Imagine a BMW convoy with Proton's, Honda's, etc. mixed in with the Bimmers? Or are those who are members but don't own Bimmers supposed to follow behind so as not to disrupt the BMW owners in front?</p><p></p><p>You can argue that if they were so passionate about BMW's then they should officially join the club. Yes, that is probably true but I'm sure those who have not joined yet have their reasons. I'm certain its not about the money. Anyone who has bought or is thinking about buying a BMW can surely afford the membership fees. </p><p></p><p>So why haven't I joined? Its not about the money. Some of us just don't have the time to join all the activities or TT sessions etc. I have a 2-year old daughter and another kid on the way so even if I wanted to join in the activities and TT sessions, this is probably not the right time for me. I'm sure other have work or other reasons for not being able to join in.</p><p></p><p>So where does this leave us? I love BMW's. That's why I joined the forum. I like participating in this forum and check it daily to keep up with what's new. If the Committee wants more people to sign up as official members then they should show us fellow forummers all the benefits of signing up. Give anyone enough good reasons and most would sign up. I would like to be more active in the club and would sign up BUT as I mentioned above I don't have the time to participate. So what do I do? Sign up just to have access to this forum? What other reason would I have to sign up?</p><p></p><p>I actually feel quite dissapointed with what is happening now. Its almost like we are being forced to sign up or we will be shut out of the forum. Is this really the best way to get people to sign up? By threatening them?</p><p></p><p>Anyway, I hope that this decision to progressively close the forums to those who are not official members will be reversed. If not, then I suppose we will progressively be shut out and will have no choice but to find somewhere else to go.</p><p></p><p>I do hope that I'm wrong and all of us fellow BMW enthusiast can continue to use this forum without any discrimination between 'official' and unofficial members. bmwclubmalaysia.com should be seen as the leading BMW club in Malaysia and set an example for other clubs to follow.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="seech, post: 212423, member: 4572"] Hi All, Firstly, I've always thought of bmwclubmalaysia.com as THE BMW club. The forum members have always been ever ready to offer their advice for FREE. I'm not entirely certain that these latest developments are for the best of the club. IF the forum is meant for people who love BMW's whether they own one or not, for BMW lovers to swap info and help each other out, for BMW enthusiast to just hang out online and share their views with other BMW enthusiast then I think this latest measure to 'encourage' people to join the club had failed. From a BMW owner myself, I have gotten plenty of good advice form fellow forummers and hopefully I have also been able help out some of the other BMW forummers. It is quite dissapointing to hear about this latest measure to get people to officially join the club. Personally, it feels more like blackmail to me. "You MUST join the club or you don't get to use the forum". Anyway, like those that have posted comments on this issue before me, those in charge have every right to do so as it is indeed up to the individual to decide whether they want to officially join the club or not. However, don't you think it is a bit counter productive IF the objective is to encourage more members to join the club? IF the objective is to restrict or reduce membership to an elite group of BMW owners then this method would probably achieve that objective. IF the objective is to get more people to join the club and be seen as the definitive BMW club in Malaysia then don't you think opening the forum up to ANYONE who has registered online would be better? I'm sure not everyone on this forum is a BMW owner. I'm sure some are looking to buy a BMW sometime in the future and some are just passionate about BMW's. BUT I'm sure ALL of the forummers love BMW's or they would not be forum members. Why is bmwclubmalaysia shutting the door to all these individuals? Do you really think that those who are not BMW owners would want to officially join the club BEFORE they have bought a BMW? What would they drive to the clubs events etc.? Would they even be allowed to join in since they don't have a BMW? Imagine a BMW convoy with Proton's, Honda's, etc. mixed in with the Bimmers? Or are those who are members but don't own Bimmers supposed to follow behind so as not to disrupt the BMW owners in front? You can argue that if they were so passionate about BMW's then they should officially join the club. Yes, that is probably true but I'm sure those who have not joined yet have their reasons. I'm certain its not about the money. Anyone who has bought or is thinking about buying a BMW can surely afford the membership fees. So why haven't I joined? Its not about the money. Some of us just don't have the time to join all the activities or TT sessions etc. I have a 2-year old daughter and another kid on the way so even if I wanted to join in the activities and TT sessions, this is probably not the right time for me. I'm sure other have work or other reasons for not being able to join in. So where does this leave us? I love BMW's. That's why I joined the forum. I like participating in this forum and check it daily to keep up with what's new. If the Committee wants more people to sign up as official members then they should show us fellow forummers all the benefits of signing up. Give anyone enough good reasons and most would sign up. I would like to be more active in the club and would sign up BUT as I mentioned above I don't have the time to participate. So what do I do? Sign up just to have access to this forum? What other reason would I have to sign up? I actually feel quite dissapointed with what is happening now. Its almost like we are being forced to sign up or we will be shut out of the forum. Is this really the best way to get people to sign up? By threatening them? Anyway, I hope that this decision to progressively close the forums to those who are not official members will be reversed. If not, then I suppose we will progressively be shut out and will have no choice but to find somewhere else to go. I do hope that I'm wrong and all of us fellow BMW enthusiast can continue to use this forum without any discrimination between 'official' and unofficial members. bmwclubmalaysia.com should be seen as the leading BMW club in Malaysia and set an example for other clubs to follow. [/QUOTE]
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