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Message: <blockquote data-quote="daveseech" data-source="post: 308699" data-attributes="member: 11434">haha..i am a engineer by training and i can vouch for aaron' s input. what aaron said is very true. sparing some time on his inputs never fails to enlightens and amazed me on countless occasions. and safe me from any future headaches for my e39 and e60.these stupid UR bar are real crap piece of rubbish if you ask me. look at that front bar, its attached to the lower control arm mounting at the subframe, and for the e60 rear bar, the first bar is attached to the car's undercarriage sheet metal and its at the front of the fuel tank, that looks like a added piece of metal to puncture the tank in the even of a accident. the second rar bar is attached to the rear sub frame mounting. these points of attachment serves no purposed where it doesnt even stretch or flex. pure useless piece of ornament and wasted money<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite9" alt=":eek:" title="Eek!    :eek:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":eek:" /></blockquote>