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<blockquote data-quote="Jipster" data-source="post: 59185" data-attributes="member: 97"><p>My experience with bushings:</p><p></p><p>E30M3 offset lower arm bush (non PU)(pair)(apparently BMW original)</p><p>Rear subframe bush (non PU)(pair)(apparently BMW original)</p><p>Both of these cost me RM570 together. 'Dont know how much they are by themselves....was quoted sort of like a 'package' price. Bought from Calvin Tan's place (search Forum Member and get website info)</p><p></p><p>PU Rear trailing arm bush (pair)(Super Pro)(from Hokomoto) cost me RM200. This one I got help from a certain sifu (you know who you are....many thanks!)..... original price quoted was much higher...</p><p></p><p>Diff bush....came with my 4.10 open diff ....apparently still ok so did not change when swap with my 3.45 diff....price of diff+bush....an unbelieveable RM100.... my thanks to sifu Loneranger who is now moving on the mighty Mini Cooper S (my thanks)</p><p></p><p>PU anti roll bush (front anti roll - 1 pair - 19mm approx dia.)(rear anti roll - 1 pair - 14.5mm approx. dia.) RM80 for rear and RM100 for front from Hokomoto...</p><p></p><p>Transmission & engine mount bushes.....no info....for these you gotta be doing some major engine work to get to them/change them ....access issue y'know.... but I read in a mag recently that the transmission moutn could be changed without the gearbox being completely removed....perhaps something to explore?..... but I think something for the more obsessive to do.....</p><p></p><p>[please note my prices are usually on the lousy side coz i dunno how to bargain nor do i have the networking to get cheap stuff but it should give you guys some idea.....]</p><p></p><p>The RESULT? In order of impact (biggest impact on top)</p><p></p><p>1. PU anti-roll bushes - firmer, more feedback (caution: works best if you have done everything else e.g. sorted out suspension, strut braces etc.);</p><p></p><p>2. rear sub-frame bush non PU - helps absorb a lot of the vibrations, noises etc., car appears quieter (but not significantly so....old car lah what do you expect?!)</p><p></p><p>3. offset (E30M3) front control arm bush & rear trailing arm bush - trun in better, more responsive steering....I dunno which one did what since both went in together <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>4. newer (not new) diff bush .... dunno.....couldnt tell coz me novice mah <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />....but piece of mind no need to do anything for sometime .....</p><p></p><p>COMFORT? I dunno dude.....I kinda equate a firm/tight suspension as being comfortable....to me its better than a loose/soft suspension..... so after all that, my conclusion is STILL COMFORTABLE..... but be advised that you magic carpet ride followers please apply elsewhere <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> You do feel the road more....its what these things do..... especially when you mate it with uprated suspension etc.</p><p></p><p>Fabian's lolipops?!...... 'super trick' from an E30 point of view..... check this link for info <a href="http://www.treehouseracing.com/home/content/view/13/40/" target="_blank">http://www.treehouseracing.com/home/content/view/13/40/</a> </p><p>Fab's should be cheaper than odering from US.....I understand it is precision machined etc. with PU or similar inserts..... I believe this is the furthest you can go in terms of offset control arm bush design.....</p><p></p><p>2Cents..... the lolipop's or 'eyeball arms' do not reduce weight ....if they do it would be minimal coz dimensions wise they are close.... PRICE? You gotta ask the man lah.....</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jipster, post: 59185, member: 97"] My experience with bushings: E30M3 offset lower arm bush (non PU)(pair)(apparently BMW original) Rear subframe bush (non PU)(pair)(apparently BMW original) Both of these cost me RM570 together. 'Dont know how much they are by themselves....was quoted sort of like a 'package' price. Bought from Calvin Tan's place (search Forum Member and get website info) PU Rear trailing arm bush (pair)(Super Pro)(from Hokomoto) cost me RM200. This one I got help from a certain sifu (you know who you are....many thanks!)..... original price quoted was much higher... Diff bush....came with my 4.10 open diff ....apparently still ok so did not change when swap with my 3.45 diff....price of diff+bush....an unbelieveable RM100.... my thanks to sifu Loneranger who is now moving on the mighty Mini Cooper S (my thanks) PU anti roll bush (front anti roll - 1 pair - 19mm approx dia.)(rear anti roll - 1 pair - 14.5mm approx. dia.) RM80 for rear and RM100 for front from Hokomoto... Transmission & engine mount bushes.....no info....for these you gotta be doing some major engine work to get to them/change them ....access issue y'know.... but I read in a mag recently that the transmission moutn could be changed without the gearbox being completely removed....perhaps something to explore?..... but I think something for the more obsessive to do..... [please note my prices are usually on the lousy side coz i dunno how to bargain nor do i have the networking to get cheap stuff but it should give you guys some idea.....] The RESULT? In order of impact (biggest impact on top) 1. PU anti-roll bushes - firmer, more feedback (caution: works best if you have done everything else e.g. sorted out suspension, strut braces etc.); 2. rear sub-frame bush non PU - helps absorb a lot of the vibrations, noises etc., car appears quieter (but not significantly so....old car lah what do you expect?!) 3. offset (E30M3) front control arm bush & rear trailing arm bush - trun in better, more responsive steering....I dunno which one did what since both went in together :) 4. newer (not new) diff bush .... dunno.....couldnt tell coz me novice mah :)....but piece of mind no need to do anything for sometime ..... COMFORT? I dunno dude.....I kinda equate a firm/tight suspension as being comfortable....to me its better than a loose/soft suspension..... so after all that, my conclusion is STILL COMFORTABLE..... but be advised that you magic carpet ride followers please apply elsewhere :) You do feel the road more....its what these things do..... especially when you mate it with uprated suspension etc. Fabian's lolipops?!...... 'super trick' from an E30 point of view..... check this link for info [url=http://www.treehouseracing.com/home/content/view/13/40/]http://www.treehouseracing.com/home/content/view/13/40/[/url] Fab's should be cheaper than odering from US.....I understand it is precision machined etc. with PU or similar inserts..... I believe this is the furthest you can go in terms of offset control arm bush design..... 2Cents..... the lolipop's or 'eyeball arms' do not reduce weight ....if they do it would be minimal coz dimensions wise they are close.... PRICE? You gotta ask the man lah..... [/QUOTE]
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