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Message: <blockquote data-quote="E34EuroTouring" data-source="post: 70353" data-attributes="member: 1026">Its actually getting more factual after all the flaming that has been done etc.Yes, a stiffer chassis will always take a toll on the suspension. But then, hard driving people already knew this. Thats why, their suspension have already be upgrade to BETTER than stock. Mine you, a normal production car, has a lot of compromises for economic reasons.  The modder's first job is to identify what those are and how much the upgraded parts will deliver (heck, most sensible modders do, anyway).Its so easy say,  just "throw money at the problem", without really wanting to know what that gives. But a true driving enthusiast wants to know and be well informed about this. Thats why really great drivers know their engine and chassis very well and when a small thing is out of place, they know within  15 mins of driving. This is one reason why so many racing drivers said" Driver and car are one when its moving at the limit".  The car becomes an extension of our senses , so we can "feel" the difference.Those who are into high-end audio know this fair well too. Principle is similar.Forming is a cheap way of give us what the manufacturer will do in the next model, except for structural changes in suspension. Like the current E90 which has a great 1-series derived rear suspension linkage that is way better than the E46 multi-link geometry.</blockquote>