Menu
Home
Forums
New posts
Search forums
What's new
New posts
Latest activity
Members
Current visitors
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
New posts
Search forums
Menu
Log in
Register
Reply to thread
Click here to become an Official Member of BMW Club Malaysia
Download Form
Home
Forums
BMW Tech and Performance
Chassis and Wheels Tech
Foaming the chassis
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Message
<blockquote data-quote="The Necessary" data-source="post: 67945" data-attributes="member: 302"><p>Anti roll bars?! Do you even know where they go? OK, now that you've googled the location, how about explaining to me how stiffer/bigger anti roll bars will affect crumple zones.</p><p></p><p>Oh, same goes for strut braces.</p><p></p><p>THINK about it (I wish I could draw a diagram now!)- crumple zones act from North to South (from the front, assuming North is the front and South the rear) and South to North. How would a bar whose main directional strength is running from East to West (and/or West to East) have much effect/affect on crumple zones? Duh!</p><p></p><p>Please allow be to address your nonsensical concerns respectively, point by point.</p><p></p><p>1. OK, *this* I REALLY don't get- how does an air filter change affect the safety structure of your car?!?!?!</p><p></p><p>2. I don't think any manufacturer or engineer in their right mind WOULD EVER RECCOMMEND you changing your engine beyond a direct replacement. YES! OF COURSE THAT WILL DRASTICALLY F.UCK UP ANY CALCULATIONS/PARAMETERS/TESTING. DUH!!!!</p><p></p><p>3....</p><p></p><p>You know what, I will stop here, because modding your car is a good metaphor (as with ALL things in life), about DOING THINGS RIGHT.</p><p></p><p>OF COURSE if you do a chop shop special with your brakes/engine/exhaust/suspension, IT WILL F.UCK up.</p><p></p><p>One way we try and assure ourselves that the mods done to our cars won't f.uck up our cars is by buying original products from reputable manufactuerers and getting them installed by trusted mechanics who know their stuff.</p><p></p><p>IT'S ALL ABOUT DOING THINGS RIGHT!</p><p></p><p>Sorry, but who and what has done any research on how the foam will affect your crumple zones...? Yup, that's right, ME *and* YOU, such reputable sources. You trust me? No. You trust yourself? I advise you not to.</p><p></p><p>BTW, you compound your ignorance once more by insisting that the A and B pillars will help with passenger compartment strength... ONLY IN A ROLL OVER. I'm sure your legs and groin will thank you when the front fire-wall of your car is rammed into them BECAUSE YOUR CRUMPLE ZONES DID NOT WORK. *Sigh*</p><p></p><p>Lee, since you are so assured of your aggressive driving ability now that you've foamed your car, please allow me to suggest that you remove all safety equipment (not relating to chassis stiffness of course!)- like your airbags (pah! who needs them with foaming!), smaller brakes (no need to brake so much into corners anymore mah!) and etc, etc.</p><p></p><p>Lastly, your foamed crumple zones are NOT shifted inwards, they are where they are, it's just that the foam has and will impede their function if/when (I'm hoping never) they are needed to absorb the energy of a crash. Of course the foam is not as "strong" as steel, but as I have iterated in my above posting, have you ever thought what makes the foam so effective in stiffning up your chassis? If it IS so effective... well... it's gotta be "strong" in some ways, right? If not it wouldn't work? DUH?</p><p></p><p>Sure, it's your ride, and it's your life, just thought I'd encourage some RESPONSIBLE thinking out there before some other person gets hyped to foam their car into a stiff, but energy absorbingly useless chassis.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Necessary, post: 67945, member: 302"] Anti roll bars?! Do you even know where they go? OK, now that you've googled the location, how about explaining to me how stiffer/bigger anti roll bars will affect crumple zones. Oh, same goes for strut braces. THINK about it (I wish I could draw a diagram now!)- crumple zones act from North to South (from the front, assuming North is the front and South the rear) and South to North. How would a bar whose main directional strength is running from East to West (and/or West to East) have much effect/affect on crumple zones? Duh! Please allow be to address your nonsensical concerns respectively, point by point. 1. OK, *this* I REALLY don't get- how does an air filter change affect the safety structure of your car?!?!?! 2. I don't think any manufacturer or engineer in their right mind WOULD EVER RECCOMMEND you changing your engine beyond a direct replacement. YES! OF COURSE THAT WILL DRASTICALLY F.UCK UP ANY CALCULATIONS/PARAMETERS/TESTING. DUH!!!! 3.... You know what, I will stop here, because modding your car is a good metaphor (as with ALL things in life), about DOING THINGS RIGHT. OF COURSE if you do a chop shop special with your brakes/engine/exhaust/suspension, IT WILL F.UCK up. One way we try and assure ourselves that the mods done to our cars won't f.uck up our cars is by buying original products from reputable manufactuerers and getting them installed by trusted mechanics who know their stuff. IT'S ALL ABOUT DOING THINGS RIGHT! Sorry, but who and what has done any research on how the foam will affect your crumple zones...? Yup, that's right, ME *and* YOU, such reputable sources. You trust me? No. You trust yourself? I advise you not to. BTW, you compound your ignorance once more by insisting that the A and B pillars will help with passenger compartment strength... ONLY IN A ROLL OVER. I'm sure your legs and groin will thank you when the front fire-wall of your car is rammed into them BECAUSE YOUR CRUMPLE ZONES DID NOT WORK. *Sigh* Lee, since you are so assured of your aggressive driving ability now that you've foamed your car, please allow me to suggest that you remove all safety equipment (not relating to chassis stiffness of course!)- like your airbags (pah! who needs them with foaming!), smaller brakes (no need to brake so much into corners anymore mah!) and etc, etc. Lastly, your foamed crumple zones are NOT shifted inwards, they are where they are, it's just that the foam has and will impede their function if/when (I'm hoping never) they are needed to absorb the energy of a crash. Of course the foam is not as "strong" as steel, but as I have iterated in my above posting, have you ever thought what makes the foam so effective in stiffning up your chassis? If it IS so effective... well... it's gotta be "strong" in some ways, right? If not it wouldn't work? DUH? Sure, it's your ride, and it's your life, just thought I'd encourage some RESPONSIBLE thinking out there before some other person gets hyped to foam their car into a stiff, but energy absorbingly useless chassis. [/QUOTE]
Verification
Post reply
Home
Forums
BMW Tech and Performance
Chassis and Wheels Tech
Foaming the chassis
Top
Bottom