Hi,I checked my Engine Oil using the On-board computer and the level of engine oil was just slightly above the minimum mark. The on-board computer stated that the Engine Oil is OK.Is this really OK, considering that my car's mileage is now 5100KM and is due for servicing at 9000KM in December?Is the level of oil sufficient or should I top it up? If I should top it up, what Oil should I use? Or should I just contact Auto Bavaria Service Centre?Please advice.Thank You
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Of course you should top up, bsoosay. Running anything at just above minimum is not good, more so engine oil. Furthermore, it looks like you have the oil burn problem discussed many times before on this forum. Going from max to min in 5,100km is not the way it's supposed to be.
Go to the AB branch where you bought the car and make plenty noise. They'll top up with dealer fill, which is Petronas Syntium 3000, for free or for a charge. Let us know what their current policy is - previously top ups were chargeable.
Go to the AB branch where you bought the car and make plenty noise. They'll top up with dealer fill, which is Petronas Syntium 3000, for free or for a charge. Let us know what their current policy is - previously top ups were chargeable.
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bsoosay;456873 said:
Better top up bro rather than no oil at all but do consult your service advisor and let them know of your predicament.
enkil;456876 said:
As long it's full synthetic oil and in the range of 5W-40, it should be safe... jangan ko letak minyak masak cukup larrr wakakaka
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bsoosay, if yours is a CKD, what you have in your engine is Syntium 3000 5W-30. You shouldn't mix different oils, especially a fully synthetic with a semi-synthetic. Oils are not like petrols and shouldn't be mixed. We recently found that even our retail Shell Helix 'fully synthetic' is actually a semi-synthetic. I've never checked out our retail Mobil 1 spec, but chances are that it's a semi-synthetic too. Mobil 1 here is not necessarily the same as Mobil 1 in the US. Yours is a new engine. Why take the risk?
If you go to a dealer, you'll get a genuine fully synthetic dealer fill oil. In owning E90s for 2 years now, I've never dropped even 1 bar of oil. You've dropped what, 4 bars in a couple of months in your new car? You have cause to complain and get a free top-up from your original dealer. :wink:
If you go to a dealer, you'll get a genuine fully synthetic dealer fill oil. In owning E90s for 2 years now, I've never dropped even 1 bar of oil. You've dropped what, 4 bars in a couple of months in your new car? You have cause to complain and get a free top-up from your original dealer. :wink:
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Was told our engines are all pre-assembled completed with first fill of Castrol LL back in Germany and imported as a completed unit into Malaysia to be fitted into our CKD units. So if that statement is true, then our first fill can be Castrol LL.
If you ask me, I say you should be alright running few bars below because the engine designers have factored in a safety margin of +1L. Below which, you should seriously top it up ASAP or might as well do an oil change like what I practice all these while. I'm running 0.25L short after every intermediate oil change because I only pour in 4L instead of the specified 4.25L for my 4-potter E90. Yet, I see full bar on the indicator (even after I ran it for weeks) and by the time my +1L warning illuminated, I would be between 8k to 10k km traveled and just nice for an oil change. I am not worried a bit and I don't think u should.. :wink:
If you ask me, I say you should be alright running few bars below because the engine designers have factored in a safety margin of +1L. Below which, you should seriously top it up ASAP or might as well do an oil change like what I practice all these while. I'm running 0.25L short after every intermediate oil change because I only pour in 4L instead of the specified 4.25L for my 4-potter E90. Yet, I see full bar on the indicator (even after I ran it for weeks) and by the time my +1L warning illuminated, I would be between 8k to 10k km traveled and just nice for an oil change. I am not worried a bit and I don't think u should.. :wink:
Hi Schwepps, yes my E90 is a CKD. The Syntium 3000 5W-30 is fully synthetic right? Considering its a fully synthetic oil, would it be alright to use another brand of synthetic oil of the same viscosity? I'm asking this because I may be out-station for work and would rather carry a 1L of oil with me in the event that I need to top up.
I'm surprised that your E90 hasn't dropped in engine oil and mine has dropped considerably after 5,100KM's. Why is this happening to some cars and not to others?
Astroboy, are you saying that 4L's of Engine Oil lasts you 8K to 10K? And you do an oil change after that? So if the on-board computer says that my next service is after 15K, I doubt 4L of oil will last me that long. So I should be able to just top up right? Or do u recommend a change?
Would Auto Bavaria actually tell me which brand of Engine Oil they are using and the viscosity of the oil? Any idea?
I'm surprised that your E90 hasn't dropped in engine oil and mine has dropped considerably after 5,100KM's. Why is this happening to some cars and not to others?
Astroboy, are you saying that 4L's of Engine Oil lasts you 8K to 10K? And you do an oil change after that? So if the on-board computer says that my next service is after 15K, I doubt 4L of oil will last me that long. So I should be able to just top up right? Or do u recommend a change?
Would Auto Bavaria actually tell me which brand of Engine Oil they are using and the viscosity of the oil? Any idea?
Hi Schwepps, Syntium 3000 5W-30 is fully synthetic right? Would it be alright if I were to use a different brand of fully synthetic oil with the same viscosity? Reason being, if I'm out-station and I rather be carrying a 1L of oil to top up rather than running to Auto Bavaria.
I'm surprised that your E90 doesn't drop in engine oil, and mine has just after 5100km. Why does this happen for certain cars and not to all?
Astroboy, so you 4L of oil lasts you about 8k to 10k and then you do a complete oil change? So if my on-board computer tells me that the next servicing is after 15k, then definitely 4L of engine oil won't last me that long right? So when that happens, do u recommend a top up or an oil change. Mine is a 323i 6 Cylinder.
Sorry for the many questions guys, I'm very much a rookie and a new BMW driver.
Very appreciative of your help and guidance.
I'm surprised that your E90 doesn't drop in engine oil, and mine has just after 5100km. Why does this happen for certain cars and not to all?
Astroboy, so you 4L of oil lasts you about 8k to 10k and then you do a complete oil change? So if my on-board computer tells me that the next servicing is after 15k, then definitely 4L of engine oil won't last me that long right? So when that happens, do u recommend a top up or an oil change. Mine is a 323i 6 Cylinder.
Sorry for the many questions guys, I'm very much a rookie and a new BMW driver.
Very appreciative of your help and guidance.
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Yes, but specifically Syntium 3000 LL 5W-30, which again you can't buy in the Petronas stations. It's only supplied to dealers. You can buy 1l top-up bottles from the spare parts counters of any dealer to keep in the boot.
If you absolutely need to mix, then mix with another fully synthetic. But here's the rub: what's labeled as fully synthetic out there on the shelves can actually be a highly refined mineral oil. Long discussions on this before.
On whether you should top up, read this first: http://www.ssht.com.au/sludge_lowres.pdf
A surprise visit from the sludge monster
You may also be surprise to learn that running an engine running low on oil for a prolonged period can cause sludge. The detergent and oxidation inhibitors are important components of the additive package that prevent sludge from forming. When an engine is run low on oil, these additives have to work overtime to do their job. There is simply less of the additive package available to do the work of suspending particles and preventing oxidation (thickening) of the oil. Here is a surprising fact, running an engine just one litre low on oil for 55 hours can increase the viscosity of the oil by over 1000%. This is like running really, really, really thick oil in your car’s engine.
If you absolutely need to mix, then mix with another fully synthetic. But here's the rub: what's labeled as fully synthetic out there on the shelves can actually be a highly refined mineral oil. Long discussions on this before.
On whether you should top up, read this first: http://www.ssht.com.au/sludge_lowres.pdf
A surprise visit from the sludge monster
You may also be surprise to learn that running an engine running low on oil for a prolonged period can cause sludge. The detergent and oxidation inhibitors are important components of the additive package that prevent sludge from forming. When an engine is run low on oil, these additives have to work overtime to do their job. There is simply less of the additive package available to do the work of suspending particles and preventing oxidation (thickening) of the oil. Here is a surprising fact, running an engine just one litre low on oil for 55 hours can increase the viscosity of the oil by over 1000%. This is like running really, really, really thick oil in your car’s engine.
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I don't think the 1L retail pack of BMW oil sold at SC is Syntium, I think those are Castrol formulated BMW LL oil. Syntium supplied to SC is drum based and is filled using a metered nozzle.
Sometime I wonder, how accurate is our oil level sensor. There have been several cases where the level sensor were found faulty and replaced. Darn, how nice if they were to keep the dipstick there for physical visual inspection.
323 needs about 7L, mine is a 4-potter
I drained my first fill at 5k km (run in oil ma!) and 2nd drain was at 15k km. All own expenses because 4-potter 1st oil change is scheduled at around 25k km, a little too long for my comfort.
Sometime I wonder, how accurate is our oil level sensor. There have been several cases where the level sensor were found faulty and replaced. Darn, how nice if they were to keep the dipstick there for physical visual inspection.
323 needs about 7L, mine is a 4-potter
I drained my first fill at 5k km (run in oil ma!) and 2nd drain was at 15k km. All own expenses because 4-potter 1st oil change is scheduled at around 25k km, a little too long for my comfort.
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Yes, the 1L retail pack oil brand available at SC was mere guessing..
I was told the N46 itself is CKD but the N52 is CBU, that's why the 1st oil change is suggested at 10k km compare to 25k km for the N46 due to the foaming problem with the N52 first fill, suspected to be not suitable for Malaysian climate.
Those who went for the factory visit not long ago might be able to confirm this..
I was told the N46 itself is CKD but the N52 is CBU, that's why the 1st oil change is suggested at 10k km compare to 25k km for the N46 due to the foaming problem with the N52 first fill, suspected to be not suitable for Malaysian climate.
Those who went for the factory visit not long ago might be able to confirm this..
Hi Guys,
I just called the Service Advisor from Auto Bavaria, Segambut branch. He mentioned that there's no need to top up unless the indicator states that a top up is needed. He also mentioned that Auto Bavaria uses Shell Fully Synthetic (5w/30). He stated if need be, I can buy a 1L spare from Shell which will be a 5W/40.
Also, a top up from Auto Bavaria is charge-able.
He mentioned an oil change for the 323i would be 6.5Litres.
I indicated that I'm displeased that after just 5100km it has reduced considerably to just slightly above the minimum level. And I was told that it could be because the car may not have been filled at 100% level due to the running-in period.
I'm lost and worried that this would cause problems for my car. Would it?
I just called the Service Advisor from Auto Bavaria, Segambut branch. He mentioned that there's no need to top up unless the indicator states that a top up is needed. He also mentioned that Auto Bavaria uses Shell Fully Synthetic (5w/30). He stated if need be, I can buy a 1L spare from Shell which will be a 5W/40.
Also, a top up from Auto Bavaria is charge-able.
He mentioned an oil change for the 323i would be 6.5Litres.
I indicated that I'm displeased that after just 5100km it has reduced considerably to just slightly above the minimum level. And I was told that it could be because the car may not have been filled at 100% level due to the running-in period.
I'm lost and worried that this would cause problems for my car. Would it?
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