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Message: <blockquote data-quote="k3nny" data-source="post: 328668" data-attributes="member: 139">1. Since it is more than just a spring change, please "enlighten me" dear guru on what else was changed? Im talking mechanically. Not aesthetically.  2. How bout this. I have put a BIG @SS GT-WING on my R34 GTR and took it to 300km/h before. Ive tried it with many different wings. Just there is a slight difference but once again, you have deviated from my statements. I believe we're comparing the aerodynamics of the standard E90 kit and the Sport E90 kit? And i believe my challenge to you was to spot the difference in high speed stability, relative to the cars ability to reach said speeds, in a standard E60 and a sport kitted E60 right? Can we not deviate and run to R8's and Civic Type R's and Evo X's and even the R35 GTR (just to save you the effort before you respond with some info on the R35 that i already know) True, a big ass GT wing will make a difference. Will that little flap at the end of your bootlid give you any "response" at all on your butt dyno? Maybe you will respond with a yes but my guess is most likely due to the sport springs being lower and having a lower center of gravity, it gives you a more secure sense of high speed stability. I had that impression. Then i swapped out the springs on the standard E60 530i for a 2nd hand set of sport springs that my friend was selling from his 525i and voila, now they feel the same all the way up to 200km/h.  3. Since you like the "expensive to maintain" part, i hope she gives you equal amount of pleasure during driving which i believe the BMW can. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /> 4. Once again, you have made an assumption. You've made the assumption that all the cars are mine and henceforth i am able to trade all of them in for a nice GT2. Believe me, ive dreamt of it before. Sadly they belong to the various drivers in my family (and yes there are many). Mine is only limited to what is in my signature. The rest either belongs to parents/sibiling but doesnt mean i cant and dont drive them on a regular basis. I dont have a headache choosing. I know what i want and i will buy it, just as you did when you decided on your 325i. But ultimately, my decision to put an M3 kit on it is my perogative. It doesnt mean im a wannabe as long as i do not put an M3 badge on the car. My taste in aesthetics is purely a personal opinion and as long as i do not pass my car off as something it isnt by labelling it with a badge, i really dont see the issue? 5. I have seen those reviews.  Once again, im not a big fan of reviews. I like to watch reviews to get a "general" opinion on the car. But when it comes to the nitty gritty, id rather take a drive down to my local dealership and take the test drive car for a spin. Connected to the road yes. On a track, perfect. What about on the roads from Klang - Lumut? Flying over every uneven bridge expansion joint?  At the end of the day, its still all down to your preference. I really believe that no specific "reviewer" has it down to a tee and is able to please the masses. And really, i think YOU should be the one to tell me about HOW connected to the road the car is. After all the reviewers have spent 1 day? Maybe at most 1 week in that said car? Whilst you have driven yours in a myriad of situations such as jams, countryside, highways etc right? Dont you think you should be giving the review instead of pointing me to some guy who drove it for a day or two and had to make "first impressions"? 6. I have to admit i can be wrong so please do "enlighten me" and tell me whatelse does the 325i SPORT have over the regular 325i besides different springs MECHANICALLY.NOT AESTHETICALLY/Interior spec. Only engine, suspension and all mechanicals. I would really like to know so i dont look foolish the next time i argue without basis so please do "enlighten me". I would be grateful. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> 7. Bravo glock8. Thats the way. I really think one should test drive every available option out there before making their purchase so that they make an "informed purchase". After all, its caveat emptor and very rarely caveat vendor right? 8. Precisely. Its a very focused car on one end of the spectrum but what you want to achieve with the 3er's/C-Class is a fine balance of street driveability, city comfort, sh1tty road comfort and all that with enthusiastic driving as well right? And as such, its much easier to make a FOCUSED machine than one that has the word compromise inside because your level of compromise differs to my level of compromise and everyone elses compromise as well. And as such, we try to determine which manufacturer's "compromise levels" of the many characteristics are able to appeal to a wider range of peoples and as such, would be the better seller.  Of course one can always refer to a FOCUSED machine again and say something like "Range Rover's have good ground clearance. I like ground clearance so i know what i want. Like a Range Rover". duh. 9. Once again, i revert to the word compromise and target market and intended application. Can we agree that the purpose of a F430 and a Maserati Quattroporte is very very different? Will we agree that they can be used for different purposes? That fine balance again right with the Quattroporte as opposed to the focused racing car that the F430 is? I was referring to the powerplant. Its the same powerplant, in both the F430 and the Maserati QP. Thanks for the "enlightenment". Its always good to learn something new. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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