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<blockquote data-quote="k3nny" data-source="post: 328481" data-attributes="member: 139"><p>glock8: Here are my thoughts.</p><p> </p><p>1. By sports version all you mean is different springs right? That makes you MORE connected to the road? I dont even think they change the ARB to thicker ones?</p><p> </p><p>So all in all, its the same car with diffferent springs.</p><p> </p><p>I have an E60 530i with normal kit in my household and an E60 525i M-Sport in my household. Please feel free to swing by and take them for a swing and then come and tell me the difference you feel in "aerodynamics". <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p> </p><p>If you would like to talk about the looks and the interior spec, fair enough.</p><p> </p><p>2. Thats very true i suppose. The Mercedes brand will always carry that image around with it as much as BMW's will carry that "break down all the time and expensive to maintain" image with it. Whether or not it is true poses too many variables to say with any given certainty.</p><p> </p><p>3. Wannabe? I dont see how slapping an AMG kit on is being a wannabe unless i put a C63 badge on my car? Im not one for social stigma and peoples opinions as its my money, and i spend it how i see fit, wannabe or not. More often than not, i find its sour grapes that criticize. Im saying as a generalization. Not as a personal attack. Please dont misunderstand.</p><p> </p><p>4. And there are many levels of Sport Sedan. You want VERY CONNECTED with every BUMP in the road travelling up your spine, you can try my Audi A4 B7 2.0t S-Line. With the S-Line springs, EVERY DAMN bump comes up.</p><p> </p><p>Really loosens your fillings in your teeth. With that car in mind, i can then safely say want a spongy ride, get an E90 as compared to this car, its spongy? Fair enough? Its all very subjective in my opinion and once again, its a matter of the users preference but to insinuate that the C-Class isnt a sport sedan isnt valid at all in my opinion.</p><p> </p><p>I think that the C-Class handles ably well and although the powerplant (in my C230 at least) lacks abit of punch and im not too pleased with the 7 speed gearbox, i can dare say the handling and driving dynamics are very good.</p><p> </p><p>Honestly, in my humble opinion, not far off from the E90 which i have driven on countless occasions. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p> </p><p>5. Once again you have chosen to give me a comparison that is on one end of the extreme. About how a F430 wont provide any comfort in the NVH levels?</p><p> </p><p>Ill throw you one. How bout a Maserati Quattroporte then?</p><p> </p><p>All the comfort, not a big sacrifice on NVH and the power of a F430 (its a ferrari sourced powerplant)?</p><p> </p><p>6. Ive tried the AMG C32 of the older C-Class and then back into a C230 Kompressor and ill be the first to tell you, the difference isnt that big. Even from the E46 M3 to the E46 330i, not a big difference. Im speaking from personal experience.</p><p> </p><p>7. I have driven the E90. Even the 325i sport, idrive and all! I can compare for this particular fact because with this paragraph, i was commenting on the car's comfort levels. Not about its driving feel. </p><p> </p><p>And the E60, being one model up should be better on the comfort level and if the E60 loses to the W204 in this aspect, its safe to assume the E90 will. </p><p> </p><p>So yes, i can judge as i HAVE driven the E90 325i sports and for the purpose of this paragraph whcih is purely comfort and uneven roads, i can make that assumption. I think its fair.</p><p> </p><p>8. Im sorry but i dont see how you made the assumption that my comparison is with the non i-drive version when i didnt say so.</p><p> </p><p>I use i-drive in my E60 and E65. I wont say its a masterpiece. Even the new COMMAND in the new S-classes, i dont like. </p><p> </p><p>I like the older COMMAND system with the TV in the middle and the buttons around. </p><p></p><p>I can live without i-drive. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /> but then again, thats a matter of personal opinion and you love the i-drive, i dont hate, im just impartial. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p> </p><p>But once again, both are lovely cars. Im just giving my opinion on both and those are my PERSONAL opinions. Not anything i expect anyone to adopt from reading. Feel free to make your own opinions upon driving those cars. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p> </p><p>My cheap 2c. Hehe</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="k3nny, post: 328481, member: 139"] glock8: Here are my thoughts. 1. By sports version all you mean is different springs right? That makes you MORE connected to the road? I dont even think they change the ARB to thicker ones? So all in all, its the same car with diffferent springs. I have an E60 530i with normal kit in my household and an E60 525i M-Sport in my household. Please feel free to swing by and take them for a swing and then come and tell me the difference you feel in "aerodynamics". ;) If you would like to talk about the looks and the interior spec, fair enough. 2. Thats very true i suppose. The Mercedes brand will always carry that image around with it as much as BMW's will carry that "break down all the time and expensive to maintain" image with it. Whether or not it is true poses too many variables to say with any given certainty. 3. Wannabe? I dont see how slapping an AMG kit on is being a wannabe unless i put a C63 badge on my car? Im not one for social stigma and peoples opinions as its my money, and i spend it how i see fit, wannabe or not. More often than not, i find its sour grapes that criticize. Im saying as a generalization. Not as a personal attack. Please dont misunderstand. 4. And there are many levels of Sport Sedan. You want VERY CONNECTED with every BUMP in the road travelling up your spine, you can try my Audi A4 B7 2.0t S-Line. With the S-Line springs, EVERY DAMN bump comes up. Really loosens your fillings in your teeth. With that car in mind, i can then safely say want a spongy ride, get an E90 as compared to this car, its spongy? Fair enough? Its all very subjective in my opinion and once again, its a matter of the users preference but to insinuate that the C-Class isnt a sport sedan isnt valid at all in my opinion. I think that the C-Class handles ably well and although the powerplant (in my C230 at least) lacks abit of punch and im not too pleased with the 7 speed gearbox, i can dare say the handling and driving dynamics are very good. Honestly, in my humble opinion, not far off from the E90 which i have driven on countless occasions. ;) 5. Once again you have chosen to give me a comparison that is on one end of the extreme. About how a F430 wont provide any comfort in the NVH levels? Ill throw you one. How bout a Maserati Quattroporte then? All the comfort, not a big sacrifice on NVH and the power of a F430 (its a ferrari sourced powerplant)? 6. Ive tried the AMG C32 of the older C-Class and then back into a C230 Kompressor and ill be the first to tell you, the difference isnt that big. Even from the E46 M3 to the E46 330i, not a big difference. Im speaking from personal experience. 7. I have driven the E90. Even the 325i sport, idrive and all! I can compare for this particular fact because with this paragraph, i was commenting on the car's comfort levels. Not about its driving feel. And the E60, being one model up should be better on the comfort level and if the E60 loses to the W204 in this aspect, its safe to assume the E90 will. So yes, i can judge as i HAVE driven the E90 325i sports and for the purpose of this paragraph whcih is purely comfort and uneven roads, i can make that assumption. I think its fair. 8. Im sorry but i dont see how you made the assumption that my comparison is with the non i-drive version when i didnt say so. I use i-drive in my E60 and E65. I wont say its a masterpiece. Even the new COMMAND in the new S-classes, i dont like. I like the older COMMAND system with the TV in the middle and the buttons around. I can live without i-drive. ;) but then again, thats a matter of personal opinion and you love the i-drive, i dont hate, im just impartial. :) But once again, both are lovely cars. Im just giving my opinion on both and those are my PERSONAL opinions. Not anything i expect anyone to adopt from reading. Feel free to make your own opinions upon driving those cars. :) My cheap 2c. Hehe [/QUOTE]
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