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<blockquote data-quote="musclehedz" data-source="post: 122993" data-attributes="member: 1033"><p>SG,</p><p></p><p>At that mileage, I highly doubt it would cause any problems flushing it unless you're getting very violent gearbox behaviours like gear slamming during shifts or hesitation of cluth engagements, etc. all those violent thingys. But one thing I'm sure u experience is lesser power over the years or mileage which you never felt it as it accumulates during the mileage for the degration of the ATF. Most likely after a 'refreshing' course of your gearbox, you'll find your car out of a sudden smoother and more powerful. It should be that way if the engine, gearbox and rear differentials are kept in tip-top condition. If you're flushing out the gearbox, my advice is do the rear differentials as well(make sure they use the correct speced fluid too). If i'm not wrong, your 328i comes with the ZF slush box that calls for Esso LT 71141 ATF fluid. IT IS NOT THE SAME AS DEXRON III. Majority of the ppl will PUMP in Dexron III coz it's cheaper but like i said before, put in the wrong fluid and you'll shorten the lifespan. As far as I know, there is only Valvoline that produces a compatible ATF in the spec range of the Esso LT 71141. The original BMW part number of this fluid should be 83229407807 if i'm not mistaken. The difference between the ATF fluids is the additive packages in it. Dexron III or formerly known as Dexron IIE contains extra cleaning agents to clean the solenoids and pressure solenoids. LT 71141 spec I think contains even more additive for the more sensitive and heavier electronic equipped ZF unit but this you'll have to confirm coz I have not doen any LT 71141 before.</p><p></p><p>Normally, manufacturers spec 'lifetime' as the time period for the whole warranty period. That's it. Our gearboxes can last up to 200,000miles or more if it VERY WELL taken care off and there are some who has proven this. Our local fact here : max 200,000km gaveway..why? it's due the maintanence of the gearbox, never flushes, fluids expired never changed, wrong spec of fluid used, wrong level of fluid maintained, filter never changed. All this adds up to the shortened lifespan of the gearbox. I will say a high percentage of this fault lies in the mechanics wrongly educating the owners. "boss, 200,000km mesti rosak , gearbox mesti jam punya" yeah right. I've come across many mechanics who pump in the wrong spec fluid and after some questioning they will just give an answer "boleh pakai punya"...yes of course, sure it can be used, even if i were to pour in an SAE 0W/5cst oil it will also work, but the question is for how long?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="musclehedz, post: 122993, member: 1033"] SG, At that mileage, I highly doubt it would cause any problems flushing it unless you're getting very violent gearbox behaviours like gear slamming during shifts or hesitation of cluth engagements, etc. all those violent thingys. But one thing I'm sure u experience is lesser power over the years or mileage which you never felt it as it accumulates during the mileage for the degration of the ATF. Most likely after a 'refreshing' course of your gearbox, you'll find your car out of a sudden smoother and more powerful. It should be that way if the engine, gearbox and rear differentials are kept in tip-top condition. If you're flushing out the gearbox, my advice is do the rear differentials as well(make sure they use the correct speced fluid too). If i'm not wrong, your 328i comes with the ZF slush box that calls for Esso LT 71141 ATF fluid. IT IS NOT THE SAME AS DEXRON III. Majority of the ppl will PUMP in Dexron III coz it's cheaper but like i said before, put in the wrong fluid and you'll shorten the lifespan. As far as I know, there is only Valvoline that produces a compatible ATF in the spec range of the Esso LT 71141. The original BMW part number of this fluid should be 83229407807 if i'm not mistaken. The difference between the ATF fluids is the additive packages in it. Dexron III or formerly known as Dexron IIE contains extra cleaning agents to clean the solenoids and pressure solenoids. LT 71141 spec I think contains even more additive for the more sensitive and heavier electronic equipped ZF unit but this you'll have to confirm coz I have not doen any LT 71141 before. Normally, manufacturers spec 'lifetime' as the time period for the whole warranty period. That's it. Our gearboxes can last up to 200,000miles or more if it VERY WELL taken care off and there are some who has proven this. Our local fact here : max 200,000km gaveway..why? it's due the maintanence of the gearbox, never flushes, fluids expired never changed, wrong spec of fluid used, wrong level of fluid maintained, filter never changed. All this adds up to the shortened lifespan of the gearbox. I will say a high percentage of this fault lies in the mechanics wrongly educating the owners. "boss, 200,000km mesti rosak , gearbox mesti jam punya" yeah right. I've come across many mechanics who pump in the wrong spec fluid and after some questioning they will just give an answer "boleh pakai punya"...yes of course, sure it can be used, even if i were to pour in an SAE 0W/5cst oil it will also work, but the question is for how long? [/QUOTE]
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