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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ALBundy" data-source="post: 398320" data-attributes="member: 15">The entry level bmws has all the attributes of a BMW, however if you are looking for something fast try the 330 and the ///M cars. That being said Hp and torque should not be the only consideration as many here have articulated the wonderful attributes of a BMW. I have sat and driven the civic type r and also a s203 before getting my current ride. Make no mistakes about it, these are very fine cars and will give the M cars a run for their money on the track (stock standard), if modified the s203 will tapau the M cars at sepang.However, when you take into account of other factors like desirability, usability and performance, bmws are still the leader in my biased opinion lol<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /> Cheers</blockquote>