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Message: <blockquote data-quote="E46Fanatic" data-source="post: 37364" data-attributes="member: 81">Originally posted by ichiwan2@Dec 12 2004, 10:20 AM I am using EBCs on my Citroen and find that there is less bite when the pads are cold. Once the temperature goes up, the bite is much better than standard pads.  U must be running either EBC Red Stuff or EBC Yellow stuff pads.  These are more track/competition spec pads which offer less fade at high temperatures, but needs some warming up in the morning to get the bite.  The Green Stuff is for street "sporty driving" use.   They are great pads IMHO, just need properly mated discs to enjoy the added braking benefits to the optimum.Check out the Green stuff "bite" specs across temperature ranges.."upgrades brake performance by 30-50%, friction co-efficient of 0.48µ excellent initial bite resulting in instant response - no warm-up required class-leading fade resistance on the road - heat stable to a blistering 500ºC extremely low disc abrasion - due to high Kevlar content low dust formula, great for alloys - due to zero carbon content low vibration - smooth operation "<a href="http://www.motorsportworld.co.uk/frame-detail.asp?PAGE=/ebc-green-stuff.htm" target="_blank">EBC Green Stuff Specs</a></blockquote>