BMW Malaysia's Response to the B10 biodiesel fuel

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Dear all,

I know there has been a number of questions which kept on arising from members who own BMW diesel cars who kept asking what the club was doing in regards to that. As any club would do, we have been in contact with BMW Malaysia and they have responded back with their official response in regards to the government's regulation of B10 biodiesel fuel.

In order to maintain the integrity of the response back, we have uploaded the images of the letter up on our forum for everyone to see.

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Thanks Mavik for the update and also my sincere thanks to all in BMW Club Malaysia that has followed up with BMW Malaysia on this matter. Much appreciated.
 
Anybody can help me understand what does it mean by a customer centric solution?
Sorry English not very powderful.
 
Thanks Mavic for the sharing on BMW Malaysia's standing.

Honestly, I am a bit disappointed with the response.

How can BMW Malaysia is so reactive on the B10 issue ? I don't see our safety is utmost important for BMW Malaysia.

For a car company like BMW, they should start carry out test (technical evaluation as BMW like to says) on B10 immediately to see what component in the engine need to be change in order to support B10. Instead they are playing by chance here whether the Government will go for B10 or not and waiting for engine damage once B10 is introduced.

If BMW Malaysia is reading this... you can kiss your diesel car market good bye if you still taking a reactive approach to the issue.
 
hahahaahah. if any problems, you are on your own!

BTW i don't think they will be introducing b10 diesel. Flip flop as usual, but in this case, it's for the better!

affan66 said:
Anybody can help me understand what does it mean by a customer centric solution?
Sorry English not very powderful.
 
Thks bro... Welcoming news indeed...
As for customer centric solution, I read it as "wait-until-more-test-before-offering" any hint of a solutioning by BMW
 
What scares me is that they said a solution will be post damage assessment! Damage!
 
BMW Malaysia may be faced with 2 issues.
They must get a sample of B10 commercially available diesel to test on a car. This diesel is not available yet.
I don't think they will go into blending their own mix of B10 diesel for this purpose.
Secondly, if results are inconclusive or say there is minimal engine damage, then the Govt will take advantage of the situation.
Knowing how the country needs to sell palm oil, this scenario may be likely.
 
That's so disappointing. Sounds like some ass-covering BS to me. B10 is not commercially available but B100 is widely available from all the biodiesel producers.

Just get B100. Blend it yourself. For a 55-litre tank, add in 1.65 litre of B100, top up with Euro5 B7. You'll have B10 in your tank.

Come on BMW Malaysia. Tell me you're already doing that. If you haven't, for God's sake, get started !! Not wait for B10 to be "commercially available" !!

Merc Malaysia has already stated from months ago that their engine can run on B10. They didn't give the excuse of B10 not being commercially available, did they?
 
Good luck to all diesel BMW owners ........ should have stick to petrol version :65:

Well just additional cost to rectify shouldn't be too far off from Merc which says okay. Guess BMW Malaysia is trying to play safe .... adopt wait and see
 
Contender said:
Good luck to all diesel BMW owners ........ should have stick to petrol version :65:

Well just additional cost to rectify shouldn't be too far off from Merc which says okay. Guess BMW Malaysia is trying to play safe .... adopt wait and see
Diesel is still better to drive. The torque is something very difficult for petrol cars to match. Just to give you an idea. 280 lb-ft of torque from a 2-litre BMW diesel engine is more than a Ferrari 348 and 355. Only from F430 onward did Ferrari's torque surpass 280. How's that for comparison? :rock:
 
Agree with bro Alias, the diesel push is really addictive. Compare apple to apple. Take a F10 520i vs a F10 520d..... diesel for the win for me!
 
The issue of B10 is coming up again. This time it seems more firm that they are planning to go ahead with B10 implementation. Anyone has any updates for all concern Diesel users?
 
I sold my x1 20D last july for this specific reason and stick to petrol...maybe others need to start doing it as well so the OeM will see the impact rather than wait for the biodiesel to came thru...while the market price is still there...once this issue is seriuously engaged at kabin net...abislah...nobody want bmw diesel model anymore...better torque but damage engine is not what we aim for....less torque less headache..petrol all the way...in our land lah anything weird will happen...
 
so.... anyone with any updates on the dreaded B10 implementation? Will it carry on or be delayed again for another day?
 
This article first appeared in The Edge Financial Daily, on January 29, 2016.



KUALA LUMPUR: Biodiesel producers, which are seeing low capacity utilisation that has led to some of them being unable to cover their production costs, are hoping that the government will implement the B10 mandate from as early as April, to boost their utilisation rates.

The Malaysian Biodiesel Association (MBA), which represents some 22 biodiesel players in the country with a combined capacity of 2.5 million tonnes, said utilisation rate of their capacity is at less than 30% now.

“The industry clearly has such low capacity utilisation, I wouldn’t say it is very healthy. But it is robust enough to weather the situation and work hand in glove with the government to increase domestic usage,” said MBA deputy president U R Unnithan.

Unnithan said he is confident that the B10 can be implemented by April, though he conceded that it is a multi-stakeholder consultative process that will take time before a decision is arrived at.

However, he stressed that there is no hurdle to the implementation of the biodiesel programme, which will see a biodiesel blend of 10% palm-based methyl ester with petroleum diesel, as the blend is technically viable.

Unnithan said there is currently no opportunity for the discretionary blending of biodiesel for exports. Hence, each biodiesel producer, be it one who produces biodiesel from palm oil or soy oil, has to depend on the national mandate of each country.

“We hope the government will launch the B10 programme as soon as possible,” Unnithan added.

Plantation Industries and Commodities Minister Datuk Amar Douglas Uggah Embas recently said the ministry aims to present a paper on the B10 programme to the Cabinet by end-February.

Last June, Uggah announced that the government would implement the B10 mandate by as early as October, but that was eventually postponed to obtain further feedback from automakers after some had expressed concern that the blend might harm car engines.

Meanwhile, if the B10 is implemented, the MBA expects the utilisation of palm oil for biodiesel to rise to 1.2 million tonnes per year, of which 0.8 million tonnes will be for the transport sector, with the remaining 0.4 million tonnes for industrial use.
 
PETALING JAYA: Mercedes-Benz Malaysia announced yesterday that its customers can use B10 Biodiesel blends in its diesel-powered vehicles after initially casting doubt on the new blend compatibility.
"According to the experiences of Daimler AG's research and development division no risks with B10 are expected for our current diesel vehicle fleet in Malaysia," it said in a statement yesterday.
"After having initially stated that the B10 Biodiesel blend requires further consideration, we are now pleased to inform our customers about the B10 Biodiesel blend suitability for all Mercedes-Benz diesel vehicles currently sold by Mercedes-Benz Malaysia," Mercedes-Benz Malaysia president and CEO Roland Folger said.
He said the German carmaker have evaluated carefully the influence of B10 Biodiesel blends on its current diesel vehicles for the Malaysian market and is now able to confirm its' compatibility.
"We have service intervals of 12,000 kilometers to ensure that our customers are not affected by the diesel quality. Our diesel-powered vehicles currently sold in Malaysia were seen to have run both smoothly and safely with the use of the B10 Biodiesel blend," Folger added.
Mercedes-Benz Malaysia said it has always championed sustainability and in doing so, encourages all relevant stakeholders to further consider other factors that may result from the introduction of B10 Biodiesel blend, including environmental, technological and cost impacts.
"Moving forward with the introduction of new models, the introduction of Euro 5/6 exhaust regulation and/or changes in diesel fuel quality we will need to re-evaluate our findings. Together, we remain committed to supporting Malaysia's ambitions of becoming an energy efficient vehicle hub in line with global standards, and hope that such considerations are taken into account," he said.

After this should jump ship to Merc for those diesel hardcores...
 
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