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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ICEMAN 68" data-source="post: 621399" data-attributes="member: 17">not that type of person who cares of calcualtions etc etc as i've used both the getrag 220 and ZF 5sp ..the feeling ain't much difference at 110KM/h.the getrag is definately robust and faster in taking off when compared to the ZF, in between the both i would say getrag plays pretty well in many ways .... engine tweeks too plays many roles ( with open port airfilters , injectors , DME software , exhaust ) too needs to be taken into consideration on choosing the right box ..IMHO it's not all about calculation, but more of how much moolah are you looking to spend ..conclusion : for a robust hard drive : Getrag                    for a linear drive         : ZF</blockquote>