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Message: <blockquote data-quote="wptee" data-source="post: 317784" data-attributes="member: 2856">hi elwine30, thx for the reply, my car is in the workshop now, just came back from uk, I got them to check all the undercariage of my car, so far all the arms are ok including tie rod. so disc will be fixed tmw, so will update on it tmw or sat. I told mechanic to order only genuine bmw disc. It only judders during braking and not crusing, steering wheel will shake badly until i release the brake then it will slowly stop shaking, occurs 120-80kmph. Joegoi, what you say is right, most bmw have 72.8 centre bore but e39 is the weird one with 74.sth thats why a hub centric ring is required. The last time i fit that e39 wheels, the hub centric ring was there, maybe the tyre shop use the wrong ring size.</blockquote>