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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Schwepps" data-source="post: 232408" data-attributes="member: 3592">LOL you guys! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin    :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" />Let me add that, aside from looking jap and all that, Lexus still hasn't shaken off its 'for really old guy' image. The first models targetted the well-heeled who had gone past even the Merc S-Class stage. Now they want to shake off that image and appeal to the younger (eg. 3-series) crowd. It's gonna be tough.I think the W204 has a better chance at doing that, although they also have a problem of the C-Class persona (which they want to keep because it's THEIR bread and butter) But the W204 is certainly a good attempt at puncturing BMW's dominance in this class.The Audi...no matter how good...will never do well here because of market dynamics.My two cents <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>