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KL2DC

25-09-2006, 10:41 PM

Guys,

The E90 registry thread was getting cluttered.

Please channel all E90 general discussions to this thread.

Thanks!!

KL2DC

25-09-2006, 10:43 PM

How about some pictures, guys??

danc

26-09-2006, 09:23 AM

E90ers,

Well since we are on the topic of tinting, so I would like to know why most of you didn't get the tinting done at AB before you collected the car? Was it because it's more expensive via AB, which I don't think so as I was quoted RM 2,000 for VKool Elite. OR would the workmanship be better if done at the tint shop vs at AB? I also heard that if you go to VKool HQ they will charge more than other tint shops just so they don't seem to be competing with their dealers.

David you chose V40, that's darker than Elite right? Why didn't you go for Elite.

David Yong

26-09-2006, 11:21 AM

Danc, the shop in USJ Subang (Tint Shop) was recommended by the AB Salesperson to me. In fact he drove my car there to get it tinted before deliver the car to me. The price was suppose to be RM 2,400.00 for VKool S40 but the salesperson got it for me at RM 2,000.00. If it's Elite, the price will be RM 1,800.00 only. Reason that I choose S40 over Elite is because it looks good especially on TiAG unit. I believe the heat & light penetration is better than the Elite.

By the way, if I am not mistaken, AB do not do tinted glass by themselves. They normally do it from the outside tint shops. If this is right, then why not we do it ourselves outside rather than going thru AB who may get a cut on the price. They offer you Elite at RM 2,000.00 wherelse I can get it at RM 1,800.00. Difference is RM 200.00...... can have a good round of happy hour with the money.

danc

26-09-2006, 11:40 AM

David,

So Elite is cheaper than V40. I was given the impression that Elite was the flagship product. Wait you wrote S40 is it the same as V40 or did I get it wrong? Agree that if we do it ourselves it shld be cheaper (no commission to SC). Wld S/V40 be too dark ie. only 40% VLT, JPJ only approves 50% for side and 70% for front and rear. Does the Smarttag still work? Is the view through the frnt screen clear? I hate it when the front tint causes star burst effect at night from on coming cars and street lights. I currently use KristalBond very very clear but the tint does get scratch easily.

David Yong

26-09-2006, 04:35 PM

The next range after Elite is the S40 (SuperKool 40) which is a bit darker than Elite and is not approve by JPJ. After S40, the next range is S90 (SuperKool 90) which almost 100% dark and need special permit to get it tinted.

For mine, both side and rear are on S40. Front is on Elite. So far so good. No star burst effect. I must admit that the shop have done a good job on my car. I was told that most of the BMW (especially those from AB Glenmarie) are send there for tinting. I have seen it myself when I passed thru the shop sometimes.

So far everything is fine for me although S40 is darker than Elite. I have passed thru few road blocks (u know, especially after late night outing on Friday & Saturday) and the cops dun bother to disturb me. Maybe I look so sober during the road block :) Oh yeah.... I have once passed thru a JPJ road block.... no problem too.

Dunno about SmartTag, never try it before as I use "Touch n Go". If I am not mistaken, no problem too as my brother's car is on Elite and he uses SmartTag with no problem.

KL2DC

26-09-2006, 09:35 PM

David_Yong: Please post some pics of your TiAg with tints...

KL2DC

26-09-2006, 09:40 PM

On another subject:

Just curious, how are your E90s' oil consumption?

I am at 9,100 miles right now and my oil meter tells me I am down a little more than half-quart of oil. I topped up 1 quart about 6k miles when I last took the e90 in for warranty repairs. At this rate, I would have gone through at least 3 quarts by the time I hit the first service/oil change at roughly 16k miles.

Seems like a lot for a new car. I checked with local e90 folks and their oil meters seem to not move that much. Also their fuel consumption is much better. My SA says 'it's not uncommon' to consume oil at this rate. I think he's full of it.

Would like to hear your experiences. Also, does anyone here pre and post Sept have the dreaded B-pillar click-clacking sound. Mine just materialzed about 1k miles ago, in both B-pillars!! Its annoying!!

One last issue, how are your RFTs doing? I'm starting to get some low-speed grinding which I suspect are the RFTs (possible cupping, uneven thread wear) which may be due to alignment out of whack or one too many spirited driving :D

David Yong

26-09-2006, 11:52 PM

Yeah, I wanted to take some pics of my ride and share with everyone here. Will definitely do so as soon as I got myself the time to snap some pics :)

The SA told me that the oil consumption for e90 and e60 is a little bit high compared to all other BMW models. He told me to expect to top up a litre of oil at every 7,000 to 8,000 kms. He said usually the light will up. My mileage now is only 2,800 kms. When the car was delivered to me, the indicator shows the oil at "max" line. It is now at middle point, between "min" and "max" line. Not sure if this is consider high oil consumption.

As for my RFT, it's running fine. Maybe because my mileage is only 2,800 kms :) A lot of people tell me that when it hit 15,000 kms, the tires are due for change. It tends to be a bit noisy even when it's close to 12,000 kms. Correct air pressure is very important for RFT. I'm pumping 32 psi for front and 35 psi for rear.

Click-clacking sound...... hmmm..... I'm not sure if you are refering to the same spot I'm facing. I have this sound come from the driver side (just on top of the dashboard, sound comes from the bonnet nearby the wiper), usually when driving on uneven road surface or hitting some holes. Is that what you mean by B pillar ?Quite irritating. The SA asked me to send in to check it out during the next service.

KL2DC

27-09-2006, 12:17 AM

David, thanks for the response. I guess our oil consumption mirrors each other. I am still puzzled why my other E90 friends are getting better oil consumption than I.

Your air pressure, looks about right. My tires are doing fine in most parts, but does show the effects of hard driving. Its begun to drone and low speed though (at 9k miles). Will check up on it, I have RFT insurance.

The click-clacking is from the B-pillar. Its a known problem in pre-Sept cars, apparently due to a seat-belt mechanism mount. A simple replacement fixes this problem. I have the TSB but never expected it on my post-Sept car especially, both B-pillar at the same time.

Btw for 2007, E90s, E91s and E92s will have a true TPMS rather than the basic ABS/DSC-based FTM. There will be hardware in the wheel (metal tirevalve sensor, communicates to the car via RF) that will directly measure the tire pressure (hence a true Tire Pressure Monitoring Sytem rather than our Flat Tire Monitor). The tirevalve sensors should be easily retrofitted on custom/aftermarket wheels so one can maintain their TPMS when modding.

KL2DC

27-09-2006, 12:23 AM

Btw will be checking out the E90 335i in a few weeks, as soon as the first ones reach statesside. Will certainly take pics/write report. Looking forward to it.

A couple of e90post members have taken delivery in Germany via Euro Delivery or Pentagon car sales, eventhough the car has not been officially launched.

The wife has been most insistent in starting an E90 335i fund, so my spare change will be committed in that direction from now on :rolleyes: Hopefully within 18 months, I can do Euro delivery on a Monetgo blue/black 335i sedan.

Don't get us wrong, we're very happy with the SG 325i, but perhaps we regrettably held back too much on the options list (e.g. sport package, navi/i-drive, manual transmission). Gonna do it right for the next one. Already kena racun !! :p

pkw88

27-09-2006, 07:04 AM

Macheet

27-09-2006, 08:52 AM

David, 15,000 clicks for RFT change out? That's goin to set-us back atleast RM2000/. Each? atleast this was what I have been told. Due to still low/imported inventory of RFTs in Malaysia. Can anybody confirm?

Schwepps

27-09-2006, 09:17 AM

Don't get us wrong, we're very happy with the SG 325i, but perhaps we regrettably held back too much on the options list (e.g. sport package, navi/i-drive, manual transmission). Gonna do it right for the next one. Already kena racun !! :p

:) Don't feel guilty about wanting to trade up so soon, KL2DC. At less than US40k for an E90 335, you're talking RM140k. That's an Accord for us and we can't even smell a 320 for that. I reckon the 335 will top RM400k here and that puts it out of the range of most of us. We poor sods will have to wait 2 - 3 years for the reconds to arrive....and STILL pay more than what you'll pay for a brand new one :( Get one quick, so that we can experience the joy vicariously through you!

Also, if your wife insists you start putting aside change for a 335, you should just drop to your knees, offer a prayer of thanks, hug her, and rush out to BMW to book the first one that rolls off the ship :p

Kena racun lagi.... :D

danc

27-09-2006, 09:19 AM

Macheet,

Yah kinda heard that the RFTs are really expensive here in Msia. My plan is to change to normal tires once the RFT are worned out or hopefully the price wld come down by the time we need to change them. Since I mostly do town driving so hopefully a puncture repair kit will hold if not...

David,

So S40 is called SuperKool 40. The funny thing is when I go check the VKool Website there isn't any range thats called Elite or SuperKool. It starts with Solitaire, Stature etc. So what is the real deal here with VKool Malaysia?? Anyway can you please email me the info about the tint shop in Subang that you went to?
Thanks

pkw88

27-09-2006, 09:29 AM

Macheet,

Yah kinda heard that the RFTs are really expensive here in Msia. My plan is to change to normal tires once the RFT are worned out or hopefully the price wld come down by the time we need to change them. Since I mostly do town driving so hopefully a puncture repair kit will hold if not...

What's the cost of these tyres in Malaysia? Are they cheaper in Singapore? If there is a significant difference, then it's not too difficult going down for a wkend and doing some maintenance work :D

danc

27-09-2006, 10:05 AM

pkw,

Yup I heard that the RFT are about RM 1600 to 2000++ here in Msia depending on size and make. Not sure if Spore is cheaper. I was also interested about the upgrade of rims and asked AB for the price of 162 with RFT the price.......RM 22,000. Nearly fell off my chair!. Rims are about RM 2,800 each I think the rest is RFT. These are 18 in. That would work out to about RM 2,700 for each RFT. That was the price I checked during the recent BMW brunch. Not sure of the price now.

KL2DC

27-09-2006, 11:09 AM

Hang on guys, I think the concerns for early wear and tear on the RFTs apply to the summer/performance RFTs not the all-seasons RFTs. I assume your E90s are shod with the all-season touring oriented tires. I think these tires should at least carry you through 35,000 km. Btw what tire brands are you guys running? Contis? Bridgestones?

There are some reports of cupping and flatspotting (all round uneven wear) in the 17" and 18" fitment OEM Bridgestones performance tires.

KL2DC

27-09-2006, 11:20 AM

:) Don't feel guilty about wanting to trade up so soon, KL2DC.

Also, if your wife insists you start putting aside change for a 335, you should just drop to your knees, offer a prayer of thanks, hug her, and rush out to BMW to book the first one that rolls off the ship :p

Kena racun lagi.... :D

:D Actually, the BMW brand has always been one that she holds dear in her heart, so doesn't take much cajoling there.

We wanted to keep to a budget with the 325i so we ordered the car with options we felt were just within the definition of basic requirements. There was a hinging moment whether to go with the steptronic or the ZSP sport package (both about the same price), we couldn't go with both as that would've busted the preset budget. In the end her handicap with the manual transmission (I know, I know but my wife is american and the standard shift is mostly alien to them :D ) forced me to choose the steptronic over the essential sport package.

So yeah she kinda owes me one ;) Next one, I'm not holding back, life's too short :p I figure with the Euro delivery discount and the BMW CCA rebate check, I can just swing for the 335i with desired options. But its gonna have to wait for now. Shouldn't have driven that 335i :eek:

David Yong

27-09-2006, 11:23 AM

Macheet

27-09-2006, 11:25 AM

Go for it KL2DC, you are absolutely right, life is just to short!!! Me, will keep buying RM9.90 car magazines to drool on the M5s etc...RM9.90 is cheap for a big dream!!!

WRT tyres, I personally have no clue mine is all season or not...they are Pirellis eufiri@ (not even sure whether the spelling is right). Find it strange when I saw the other E90s are fitted with Contis or Bridgestones.

Cheers

David Yong

27-09-2006, 11:32 AM

David,

So S40 is called SuperKool 40. The funny thing is when I go check the VKool Website there isn't any range thats called Elite or SuperKool. It starts with Solitaire, Stature etc. So what is the real deal here with VKool Malaysia?? Anyway can you please email me the info about the tint shop in Subang that you went to?
Thanks

Danc, you can visit USJ Tint-Shop at No.9, Jalan USJ 10/1C, Taipan Triangle, 47620 UEP Subang. Tel: 03 5635 8776.

David Yong

27-09-2006, 11:49 AM

Macheet, RFT prices ranges from RM 1,400 to RM 1,900 per piece depending on the size. As usual, try not to get it from AB as their price is killing. There are mnay good tires shops out there and their price is definitely better than AB. But you must be careful too as there are also many shops out there who dunno much abt RFT and they may risk ruining your RFT.

For those with the 161s rims are with Pirelli tires. For those like mine with 159s rims, it came with Contis.

Schwepps

27-09-2006, 12:00 PM

KL2DC, if I were you.... I won't wait any longer to get the 335i. Schwepps is absolutely right. And I dun think so the 335i will be at RM 400k. I believe it will be much more higher since the 330i is selling at RM 408k! With this kinda of pricing, it really put it out of range for most of us here. So..... go ahead and get a unit of the 335i and share more with us on how it feels :) :)

Waaaaaa... I want to cry! Tell you what, KL2DC, now that you're thinking of going for a 335 soon, the next time I go to NJ, I'll drive to DC, buy you dinner, and you let me have a spin. THAT I can afford, and I know it's easy-schmeasy to do the drive, having driven around NJ and PA for 2 weeks. Can or not? :o

David Yong

27-09-2006, 06:35 PM

Waaaaaa... I want to cry! Tell you what, KL2DC, now that you're thinking of going for a 335 soon, the next time I go to NJ, I'll drive to DC, buy you dinner, and you let me have a spin. THAT I can afford, and I know it's easy-schmeasy to do the drive, having driven around NJ and PA for 2 weeks. Can or not? :o

Schwepps..... don't laaaaa sound so desperate :) hahahaha....

KL2DC

27-09-2006, 09:57 PM

Tell you what, KL2DC, now that you're thinking of going for a 335 soon, the next time I go to NJ, I'll drive to DC, buy you dinner, and you let me have a spin. THAT I can afford, and I know it's easy-schmeasy to do the drive, having driven around NJ and PA for 2 weeks. Can or not? :o

Of course!! What's a few clutches and tire sets between friends :D Most of that stuff is under warranty/maintenance anyways LOL Virginia's got a lot of nice driving roads. The skyline drive through the shenandoah valley is a great drive in the fall.

Thanks for the words of encouragement or rather racun infusion, guys!! Aiya, we're getting ahead of ourselves :o I was just thinking out loud, I still have some time to go before I pull the trigger . This humble nine-to-fiver's still have some mountains to move prior to make the 335 happen :o . I think you high rollers are in better position to buy the 335 than I :D

That recent 335i drive really racun me big time *sigh*. My dealership doesn't help either, my CA calls me every now and then to 'update' me on the E90 and E92. Suddenly, I find my 325i a little too sedate, hence the itchiness to upgrade. I've already gone through several ideal configurations, I'm such a kid :p Need to rekindle my love affair with the 325 by going out on a spirited drive or more modding!!....

KL2DC

27-09-2006, 10:14 PM

WRT tyres, I personally have no clue mine is all season or not...they are Pirellis eufiri@ (not even sure whether the spelling is right). Find it strange when I saw the other E90s are fitted with Contis or Bridgestones.

Macheet: you're rolling on Ultra High-performance Summer Pirelli Eufori@s. These are one of the ZSP package offering on US 325is and are paired with the 161s.

Full profile here: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Pirelli&tireModel=eufori%40

Looks like you have a 180 AA tire wear rating (on the low end). To put that into perspective, my POS Bridgestone Turanza EL 42 RFTs (Touring All-season) has a 300 AA rating.

Just a little info behind the UTQG rating - US NHSTA standards (from tirerack).

UTQG Treadwear Grades are based on actual road use in which the test tire is run in a vehicle convoy along with standardized Course Monitoring Tires. The vehicle repeatedly runs a prescribed 400-mile test loop in West Texas for a total of 7,200 miles. The vehicle can have its alignment set, air pressure checked and tires rotated every 800 miles. The test tire's and the Monitoring Tire's wear are measured during and at the conclusion of the test. The tire manufacturers then assign a Treadwear Grade based on the observed wear rates. The Course Monitoring Tire is assigned a grade and the test tire receives a grade indicating its relative treadwear. A grade of 100 would indicate that the tire tread would last as long as the test tire, 200 would indicate the tread would last twice as long, 300 would indicate three times as long, etc.

The problem with UTQG Treadwear Grades is that they are open to some interpretation on the part of the tire manufacturer because they are assigned after the tire has only experienced a little treadwear as it runs the 7,200 miles. This means that the tire manufacturers need to extrapolate their raw wear data when they are assigning Treadwear Grades, and that their grades can to some extent reflect how conservative or optimistic their marketing department is. Typically, comparing the Treadwear Grades of tire lines within a single brand is somewhat helpful, while attempting to compare the grades between different brands is not as helpful

Hope that clears things...:)

Btw: the other OEM RFT fitting in the US market is the Bridgeston Potenza RE050A II RFT, a Max Performance tire. This setup has a 140AA wear rating.

We don't get the Contis nor the Michelin RFTs here in the US market. I hear they are far better than any of the tires we get here.

KL2DC

27-09-2006, 10:17 PM

FYI, all-seasons are the minimum requirement for cold weather motoring. At ambient temperatures of 45F and below, the summer/performance tires compound loses flexibility hence grip. Also the all-season thread design is more conducive for travelling on light snow. But even at that, the all-seasons are a compromise. The ideal setup is to have winter tires and summer tires, but since DC metro winters are relatively mild, I can live with the compromise.

KL2DC

27-09-2006, 10:23 PM

David Yong is correct. When mounting RFTs on wheels, the proper expertise and equipment is required. Our RFTs have a specific sidewall design that requires care when mounting on wheel. The beads have to sit in well.

I have a friend who was running who bought a set of 162s with P-Zero Nero's but switched them to the Bridgestone Potenzas RFTs shortly after (he missed the security of RFTs). He had them mounted at a neighborhood Goodyear tire shop and it looked to be a pretty decent job. Well, he incurred a flat (road debris) soon after and the tire bead went off the wheel, basically negating the benefits of the RFTs. With zero pressure, the car relies on the hard sidewalls (securely seated on the wheel) of the RFTs to keep going but if the tires are unseated, nothing can be done. So he had to flat-bed the car to the nearest dealer...which was a major pain in the ass.

KL2DC

27-09-2006, 11:05 PM

As posted on Bimmerfest...

One of the first E90 335i US deliveries...fresh off the boat.

Black Sapphite/Lemon/Burl combo. The setup is just beautiful. Lemon is a new Priority-One option for MY2007 i.e. can only be ordered by customer and not for general dealer inventory.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f143/kl2dc/Our201st20335i20Sedan20just20arr-1.jpg
Beautiful interior. Love the 2 tone, very classy. Like the old school astons and bentleys. Folks with small kids need not apply.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f143/kl2dc/Our201st20335i20Sedan20just20arrive.jpg
The split dual exhaust is still not sitting well with me, looks off.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f143/kl2dc/DSC00216b.jpg
Pic from an e90post member's Euro delivery. Poster is still in germany. Montego blue is such an awesome color, so iridiscent, definitely on my short list!! This is the first e90 montego blue pic shown.

Euro delivery is the way to go, good savings to be had. One of my dream experience.

David Yong

27-09-2006, 11:07 PM

Yup.... Montego Blue looks good. Love the color....

David Yong

27-09-2006, 11:08 PM

And I think the rims are 162s..... love it so much :)

KL2DC

27-09-2006, 11:15 PM

And I think the rims are 162s..... love it so much :)

yep, part of the 'must have' $1,600 Sport Package option (sport wheel, sport seats, 155mph speed limit, sport suspension, 18" 162s performance tires). Good value for money, I think.

An option I regrettably skipped when configuring my 325i....*sigh*

Equalizer

28-09-2006, 09:06 AM

Black Sapphite/Lemon/Burl combo. The setup is just beautiful. Lemon is a new Priority-One option for MY2007 i.e. can only be ordered by customer and not for general dealer inventory. Beautiful interior. Love the 2 tone, very classy. Like the old school astons and bentleys. Folks with small kids need not apply.

KL2DC - when I took first-looks at the E90, they were still CBU here and I was very caught up by the lemon as well. It had a very hip look, and there was a way the colour worked with the aluminum and black to make the cabin ambience just awesome. ;)

But ..... you know what finally killed the idea for me? The entire ceiling, starting from the A/B/C pillars, were in grey fabric!! Somehow, that combination did not work for me ..... there was a certain way in which the grey and lemon came together that made the lemon look like some after-market job.

Please do check this out before you plunge ..... make sure you can accept it. :D

KL2DC

28-09-2006, 10:19 AM

Equalizer: Thanks. I think a lot of people have that concern. Those with the lemon interior in Europe markets say the interior color works best with the optional anthracite headliner which, unfortunately, is not offered in the US.

Equalizer

28-09-2006, 11:19 AM

..... the interior color works best with the optional anthracite headliner .....

So that's what it's called - headliner - not "ceiling" huh?? :D :D

danc

28-09-2006, 12:01 PM

Wow,

The Eufori@ are rated at 180 AA only! My current tires are at least 220 AA A and the life span was about 30K km and I was doing frequent tire rotations etc. With the staggered setup on the 325 with these tires no chance/limited to do rotations. These tires are going to wear out really fast. Hmmm have to seriously factor in the cost of RFT to maitain this car. Since they are not cheap and wear out fast.

Macheet

28-09-2006, 03:36 PM

Thanks, KL2DC; need that Tyre 101 (very informative).

And yes, danc - from my quick calc (sprited driving most of the time on NKVE), mine will last < 23,000 km. Look like I have to start collecting those loose change around the house to save for tyre change-outs by end of the year!!! And now that I am better informed, Turanza looks like a better option.

Cheers

KL2DC

29-09-2006, 06:10 AM

I think the Pirelli Eufori@ are standard fittings on the 161s in the Malaysian market...

To those who took delivery with the 159s, what tires do you have??

David Yong

29-09-2006, 11:03 AM

Mine is Continental Sport Contact 2 SSR, 225/45/R17 with 159s rims. It is with 280AAA rating :)

KL2DC

29-09-2006, 07:07 PM

David_Yong: Darn, as mentioned, we don't get those tires here. I hear they are pretty decent. So the 159s are shod with the Contis with 280AA rating, I guess another advantage for the 159 camp??

David Yong

30-09-2006, 01:01 AM

One good thing about 159s rims is we can rotate the tires at every 10,000 kms. I'm not sure as I heard from AB that it is not recommended to rotate the tires but through my experience, rotating the tires is good. Any idea as to why they do not recommend rotating tires for bimmers ?

KL2DC

30-09-2006, 02:50 AM

Correct...BMW in general, discourages the rotation of tires.

Something about specific distribution of weight at each 4 corners and corresponding wear i.e. The new tires on a new car, wear/settle in a specific way at each corner so rotating the tires might affect the finely tuned handling/feel/ride.

Take it for what its worth :D I say they're in cahoots with the tire companies LOL

KL2DC

30-09-2006, 04:03 AM

Ok a little more clarification on the matter, somewhere along the lines of what I posted earlier:

"BMW recommends against rotation because they already have an individual wear pattern for where each tire sits right now. When you rotate on a BMW, you go through a break in period again - thus you are riding on parts of the tire that are not so perfect. Right now you have a full contact patch. "

KL2DC

30-09-2006, 05:03 AM

If any of you push your E90s in varying degrees, keep a close eye out for front tires feathering. My fronts are exhibiting some minor feathering and cupping, no doubt from recent banzai runs in the twisties on inappropriate all-season touring tires. At the end of the day the e90's are heavy cars and the front tires really take the weight in braking/turning into tight corners....

As mentioned, I am already getting increase noise and subtle vibrations from the front, most noticeably as a low-speed grinding sensation. If this continues, I'd be forced to drive a nail in each 4 tires and claim insurance for a new set LOL

Know your tire wear:

http://www.procarcare.com/includes/content/resourcecenter/encyclopedia/ch25/25readtirewear.html

David Yong

30-09-2006, 07:15 PM

KL2DC, it is so nice for you guys to be able to buy insurance on tires. We can't do it over here.

About the oil consumption, my car hits 3,300 kms mileage yesterday and the low oil indicator shown up. It's at the "Min" level, requesting a top up of 1 litre oil. I went to AB and they told me this is usual when the car mileage is below 10,000 kms. When the engine is new, it tends to consume higher oil. After 10,000 kms it will be back to normal, i.e. oil change/top up only on every 25,000 kms (every service inspection due).

How about yours ? What's your mileage now ?

pkw88

01-10-2006, 08:36 AM

About the oil consumption, my car hits 3,300 kms mileage yesterday and the low oil indicator shown up. It's at the "Min" level, requesting a top up of 1 litre oil. I went to AB and they told me this is usual when the car mileage is below 10,000 kms. When the engine is new, it tends to consume higher oil. After 10,000 kms it will be back to normal, i.e. oil change/top up only on every 25,000 kms (every service inspection due).

How about yours ? What's your mileage now ?

David,

Does that mean the car should not be driven hard for 10k? I hope not, it's hard enough to be gentle with my right foot when the car is just 600 km old! :D

David Yong

01-10-2006, 12:31 PM

pkw88,

Not really. It is just that the engine oil consumption is higher during the 1st 10,000 km. You will expect the low oil indicator shows up before 10,000 kms. The faster you drive your car during the 1st 10,000 km, the higher the oil consumption or the faster you need to add 1 liter of oil.

Like mine, the mileage is just at 3,300 km and the indicator already asking me to add 1 litre of oil. Some may encounter this only at 6,000 or 7,000 km but for me is because everytime the car hit into highway, I will be doing 190 kmph to 210kmph :)

After the 10,000 km mark, the oil consumption will get back to normal. That was what AB told me. Like said, new engine tends to consume higher oil. Dunno how true it is but to wait and see :)

David Yong

01-10-2006, 12:33 PM

KL2DC,

I would prefer to rotate my tires every 10,000 km although BMW recommends against rotation. I have been doing rotation on all my previous cars and it's proven good for the tires.

meshr

01-10-2006, 06:21 PM

any recommendations on the engine oil?

KL2DC

01-10-2006, 08:47 PM

any recommendations on the engine oil?

BMW contracts with Castrol to have a special formula of full synthetic. It's what BMW recommends. Check with your parts/service department.

Are you attempting a DIY change sometime soon?

BMW 5w30 is a Castrol blended synthetic from Europe, group III...thus not a full synthetic. It's a fine blend but countless analysis' have shown the oil is very weak by 15k miles and wear metals are above what they should be. A change at half-way point, before the service indicator tells you, is always recommended. A lot of folks have noted the engine felt smoother and faster, after a mid-interval (unscheduled change).

pkw88

03-10-2006, 06:27 AM

BMW contracts with Castrol to have a special formula of full synthetic. It's what BMW recommends. Check with your parts/service department.

Are you attempting a DIY change sometime soon?

BMW 5w30 is a Castrol blended synthetic from Europe, group III...thus not a full synthetic. It's a fine blend but countless analysis' have shown the oil is very weak by 15k miles and wear metals are above what they should be. A change at half-way point, before the service indicator tells you, is always recommended. A lot of folks have noted the engine felt smoother and faster, after a mid-interval (unscheduled change).

Over here in Malaysia, all new BMWs come with the 3 years service warranty. Can I specify the use of fully synthetic oil without voiding the warranty? My SA gave me the impression that anything not from BMW would void the warranty! :confused:

wpk88

KL2DC

03-10-2006, 08:35 AM

pkw88: we have 4yr/50k miles full maintenance here as well. I'd just stick with the BMW oil, its good oil that is compatible with your N52 engine. The issue is the frequency, though. I would have some unscheduled oil changes done, for peace of mind, say about half-intervals of the maintenance schedule.

If you still choose to use non-BMW brand oil, Mobil 1 0w40 and Castrol 0w30 are all approved.

FYI the oil minder/maintenance minder calculates required service length largely based on fuel consumption rate. The harder you drive, the sooner service is scheduled. There is no true sensor that samples the quality of the oil.

David Yong

03-10-2006, 07:54 PM

Yup, it is recommended to do an oil change at half-way point, before the service indicator shows up (say at every 10,000 km just a change of oil and full service at every 25,000 km).

My SA told me that it is ok to use Mobil 1 fully synthetic oil. However he strongly recommend me to stick with BMW oil if possible.

pkw88

04-10-2006, 08:00 PM

Mine is Continental Sport Contact 2 SSR, 225/45/R17 with 159s rims. It is with 280AAA rating :)

Same here. Although when I change them for the 161 rims, they will be pirellis

KL2DC

06-10-2006, 04:09 AM

Guys check this video out...

N54 engine with GReddy BOV installed. Amazing $350 mod!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcIaQOBPCBE

pkw88

07-10-2006, 09:45 AM

Guys check this video out...

N54 engine with GReddy BOV installed. Amazing $350 mod!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcIaQOBPCBE

Right, that's it! Saving up for a 335i now!!!

KL2DC

07-10-2006, 09:50 AM

Right, that's it! Saving up for a 335i now!!!

Doesn't it just sound fantabulous!!! That's all stock except for the BOV. Exhaust is standard!! Amazing sound, needs nothing!!! Ohhh....saving pennies here too :)

meetoo

07-10-2006, 09:53 AM

KL2DC

07-10-2006, 10:01 AM

Hi everybody! I'm thinking to change my Volvo S60 to E90 BMW 325 Doing my research, found that 328 is already launched in some countries and 325 is no more in their range. Anybody got any idea about this?

a. Is 328 going to launch in Malaysia soon? Maybe 2007?
b. What are differences of 325 vs 328 E90?

Appreciate your advices.

This was discussed before...

In the US both the 325 and the 330 shared the same 3.0l N52 engine. The only difference is intake and software. The 330i makes 255bhp from the same engine.

For MY07, the 325 is upgraded to 328i. Its the same engine but tuned up 15hp to 230bhp. The 328i gets the uprated steptronic, alu trim for the knobs and steering wheel and a TPMS (as opposed to our FTM). The 328i also costs $2,000 more (at least 5% increase) over 325i. Its more of a marketing move as equipment levels are jsut about the same.

The 330i is changed over to the 335i with the new N54 twin-turbo engine. Same equipment changes and same price increase, which is more justified.

Jury's still out if you guys will get the changeover to 328i. Don't forget you have the 2.5l version of the N52. I don't forsee bore changes to increase the capacity to 2.8 soon unless they introduce the bigger 3.0l version of the N52 (unlikely due to road tax purposes).

KL2DC

07-10-2006, 10:04 AM

Metoo

By the way, welcome the club!! We'll be happy to discuss any E90 topics with you. The E90 is a great car and we all love it!!

meetoo

07-10-2006, 10:15 AM

KL2DC

07-10-2006, 10:26 AM

So sorry to bring up same subject if discussed before, I'm new to this forum. Thanks for your fast reply!

Sorry to be ignorant but what is TPMs and FTM? Are these BMW lingo? :-)

Do you think they will tune up the 2.5L engine, otherwise what's the difference except the badge? Must be some differences or it doesn't make sense even for marketing purposes. Impression is that 328 is higher than 325, or am I wrong bout that?

Oh sorry...

TPMS= Tire Pressure Monitoring System
FTM= Flat Tire Monitor

All E90s come with RFTs. In our E90s, the car recognizes a flat tire by differences in rotational speed at each corner. This is done through the car's ABS/DSC (Dynamic Stability Control). There is no actual hardware in the wheel/tire. Again, this is to alert the driver only of a flat tire, hence Flat Tire Monitor.

In MY07, cars are coming in with a true TPMS. Instead of the more elaborate sensors strapped onto the wheel, the wheels have special tire valves that monitors the air pressure in each tire. This is communicated to the car via RF. So you'll be able to monitor the individual pressure. Hence, Tire Pressure Monitoring System.

I have not heard of any news to tune/bore out the 2.5l. They sell the 325i in 2.5l guise in EU and Asia for a reason, i.e. to mitigate the high road taxes of 3.0l and above engine capacities. I also have not seen testing for a 2.8 litre N52 engine. Case in point, the E92 was launched in the UK as a 325i and 335i (petrol engines) while in the US, 328i and 335i.

You are correct, the impression is that 328 is higher than 325. That's the whole idea. I think when the 325/330 came out in the US, the pricing was too low in relation to the Euro. BMW AG probably took the opportunity to adjust the pricing and justify it by changing the nameplate to 328i. There are no other changes other than as mentioned.

meetoo

07-10-2006, 10:49 AM

Waah, you're very knowledgeable! Thank you for your detailed explanations. Maybe when I go to the showroom here, I'll try to find out the future for 2007. Anyway I think no point to buy 2006 car now when 2007 so near. My target is around after CNY period.

I must read all the rest of this forum if you have so many facts at your fingertips bro! :-)

KL2DC

07-10-2006, 11:08 AM

meetoo

07-10-2006, 12:32 PM

I have already test drive it. The driving feel is so much better than my S60, although Volvo is more comfortable I think. Very interested in getting one. Thanks, will research more about 2007 prospects here. I already understand from the other posts many issues about the CBU, CKD and so on. Very informative la, this forum!

funfer_fahrer

07-10-2006, 12:47 PM

meetoo...

If you don't see anything you need, just ask :D

Change or no change, the E90 is still a worthy car. Take one out for a test drive and let us know what you think. The first thing to look out for is BMW's legendary steering feel. It just feels spot on.

My God..

You gotta to be an E90 die hard fan, man. I promise I won't say anything bad about the E90. He he:D :D

KL2DC

07-10-2006, 08:12 PM

My God..

You gotta to be an E90 die hard fan, man. I promise I won't say anything bad about the E90. He he:D :D

Just you try..... :D :p lol

KL2DC

07-10-2006, 08:15 PM

How low can you go?

Black E90 on Air Runner Suspension, Breyton kit and 20" HRE Wheels in Indonesia. Air runner allows on the move ride height adustability. What a mod!!

Just some ideas on how far e90 modding can go....

This is member Erick's car (Jakarta, Indonesia) from e90post.com. It was car of the month 4 months ago.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f143/kl2dc/DSC00031.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f143/kl2dc/DSC00029.jpg

meshr

08-10-2006, 12:26 AM

anyone found anything yet in the market? i'm dying to find one for my set of keys. almost got one in mont blanc but the leather case lid didnt fit properly.
searched the net..no luck too.

pkw88

08-10-2006, 08:48 AM

anyone found anything yet in the market? i'm dying to find one for my set of keys. almost got one in mont blanc but the leather case lid didnt fit properly.
searched the net..no luck too.

Let me know if you do find one, I've been looking too and so far nothing really fits. Even BMW doesn't seem to make anything like that, suprised me as I thought that would be the first thing that they would do - fleece the buyer with high priced lifestyle accessories!

KL2DC

08-10-2006, 09:28 AM

I think the key is too bulky for a conventional leather key holder...

pkw88

08-10-2006, 10:45 PM

I think the key is too bulky for a conventional leather key holder...

Yeah, but something that works like an iPod sleeve would look good.

KL2DC

09-10-2006, 02:32 AM

Yeah, but something that works like an iPod sleeve would look good.

Oh..you mean like a condom for your fob? :D SOmething you can slip on and off...:rolleyes:

pkw88

09-10-2006, 07:31 PM

Oh..you mean like a condom for your fob? :D SOmething you can slip on and off...:rolleyes:

yeah! Safe driving is important, never know what's round the corner! :D

KL2DC

12-10-2006, 04:18 AM

Yeah, but something that works like an iPod sleeve would look good.

Been looking, I haven't seen anything nor have I seen any interest for such a product. I suggest custom fabrication with your local leathersmith? Let us know how that goes....

meetoo

13-10-2006, 09:20 AM

Hi Guys! AB ppl can't confirm anything yet but they say there are rumours the CKD range will be broadened to boost sales next year. Maybe a basic 318, a 323 and a upgraded 328 by tweaking the tuning of the 4 pot and 6 pot, and having different tyre and feature package. CBU may focus on 330 and 335.

Probably by after CNY. They want more E90 on the road!

KL2DC

13-10-2006, 10:00 AM

Well they have the E91 320d on board already, 10k difference from your E90 325i...I believe its CBU.

The 129hp 318i maybe a feasible idea for a entry-level car but I am not sure about the 323i...as far as I know this is a model only available in select market (e.g. Canada). Its a 2.5l. The 230hp 328i seems tailored specifically for the US market and is based off the 3.0l version of the N52 engine (same as 330i) but without the multi-stage intake and software, so its a no go. As mentioned before, I don't see BMW AB introducing this detuned 3.0l engine as a 328i when they can go ahead and introduce the 258hp 330i. The N54 engined 335i will be an awesome range topper but may be cost prohibitive. What'd be more interesting is when they start in bringing in the oil-burners like the 335d, the 330d and the 325d. These are awesome cars with huge ass torque.

meetoo

13-10-2006, 02:26 PM

Wow, the diesel 3s would be awesome! But I think those would be CBUs or grey imports, and too expensive. The impression I got was the 328 would be an upgrade of the 2.5l 325 only, maybe tuned up, I-drive, etc. 3.0l cars not popular here because of the road tax. But they're also not sure, or not being specific yet. Only got info after deep digging!

rookie

13-10-2006, 02:36 PM

If the 328 does come to our shores, it will be a detuned 3.0l. The 323 will be a detuned 2.5l. Similarly the 318 is a detuned 2.0l.

Schwepps

13-10-2006, 10:44 PM

If the 328 does come to our shores, it will be a detuned 3.0l. The 323 will be a detuned 2.5l. Similarly the 318 is a detuned 2.0l.

Well whatever comes our way, a broader range would be good. Although the market situation is much improved in the last couple of years, we're starved of choices here in all the marques. It should get better and better I hope.

Hmmm...a 328 detuned 3.0l like KL2DC's would be interesting! :rolleyes:

KL2DC

14-10-2006, 12:25 AM

If the 328 does come to our shores, it will be a detuned 3.0l. The 323 will be a detuned 2.5l. Similarly the 318 is a detuned 2.0l.

Correct!! What's up with BMWs with tuning down these engines. I still feel sore about driving around with a 'detuned' engine...seems like so much potential curbed. Talk about shortchanging. At least your 2.5l N52 engines are at their prime :p

So I think the 318i maybe a no go because of the 320i. And the 320i is available in 2 trim levels anyways, satisfying the different requirements/price points for 4 cylinder models, although there is space for a stripper model 318i to be slotted under the 320i. Such a model will be quite basic with halogen lights, cloth trim etc. I am thinking 200k range? The 323i maybe a hard fit as there is not much space between the 320iSE and the 325i. The 328i is a no go due to road tax constraints, but there is space for a flagship 330i or 335i. I am thinking they will have a 330i sedan flagship and a 335i Coupe as the entire 3-series range topper. I don't think they will bring in the 330d or 335d in great numbers, it'll depend on how well the 320d E91 does in the market. I guess the E93 will be by grey imports only but what about the V8 M3??

meetoo

14-10-2006, 02:00 PM

Ya, that was what I was told! They might be offering a model around 200k, otherwise E46 owners may find it hard to update to E90 and they may lose them to other brands. Also, they might offer special trade-in facilities for E46 to counter poor resale values in the market now.

Equalizer

19-10-2006, 01:46 PM

pkw88

19-10-2006, 05:59 PM

Guys - I have just about had it with the RFT's!! :mad:

I believe they are the sole culprit to a very hard ride on my e90, especially on our pot hole-filled roads. I have had a pretty long term use of the 5-series (for about nine months) on regular tyres and the ride was beautiful. I now find my e90 very un-BMW like .....

Has anyone out there actually changed to regular tyres - would you care to share the difference in ride that you have experienced? Which brand of tyre do you recommend?

I am now on type 159 rims, tyre size 225/45 17, and am seriously considering going to regular Continentals or Pirellis, size 245/40 17 ..... wonder how this size fits the rims??

Many thanks!!:)

You may remember a while back that I mentioned I had manage to get BMW Malaysia to agree to change my rims from the 159s to 161s. It finally happened yesterday. I have had a good run with them on mixed roads, and can report subjectively that the rock hard and thumpy ride I have been getting has gone.

The ride is still on the stiff side (but closer to a sports suspension set up) and the thumps I had with every bump have all but gone. I attribute this change of behaviour to the Bridgestones on the 161s. Perhaps the Contis have a very stiff sidewall compared to the Bridgestones or Pirellis. It might be worth your while to discuss your unhappiness with BMW Malaysia directly and get them to put Bridgestone or Pirelli RFTs on your wheels. I found AB particularly useless when I tried to get them to change my car rims to the 161s that were on the test car!

Schwepps

19-10-2006, 06:54 PM

pkw88

19-10-2006, 07:12 PM

pkw88: I'm still amazed that they allowed you to take the car, drive it on the 159/Contis and then 3-4 weeks later, change the whole set for you into 161/Bridgestones for free! They would be taking a write-off on the new 159/Contis - can only use them on a demo or courtesy car now.

I rate myself as a pretty hard guy when it comes to confrontations on issues of principle, but I don't think I could have pulled THIS off. You're positively awesome. How'd you do it? :eek:

Schwepps, I talked nicely to the guy at BMW (Customer Services - guy called Raymond, I think) and must admit to being surprised that he agreed to the change too. I did point out that I had tested the car with 161s, the web page and spec sheet all showed 161s as specified, and that because they chose to substitute 159s without telling the buyer, this was misleading the consumer etc and that I was very disappointed with not having the car of my dreams (maybe I did lay it on too thick, but it worked:D ). Maybe you can try this guy too. But definitely the Bridgestones have helped the ride! Worth a call to BMW Malaysia.

rookie

19-10-2006, 07:15 PM

Yes, please educate us on how you managed to pull this off. Most of the time, when I refer to BMW Malaysia directly for questions/issues, they will direct me back to AB. The only thing I managed to get BMW M'sia to help was upgrade of the software and to enable drive-off auto-lock. Obviously the software upgrade and enabling of the feature was done by AB.

Schwepps

19-10-2006, 07:23 PM

Wait, wait, wait! pkw88 are you a mean-looking guy like the rest of us or are you a drop-dead gorgeous chick? :D (kidding) :D

danc

19-10-2006, 08:15 PM

Here is something I noticed. When I tested the 320i which was on 205/55/16 Bridgestones I think, I too found the ride very hard and stiff (maybe too much air??) Then I tried the 325i the ride was much better. Now my car's setup with staggered tires, to me is not hard/harsh either and that their are running on even lower profile tires.

You may want to check your tires pressure and/or it could be the type of tire. Bare in mind I am coming from a Jap mobile with rather pliant ride and I find my 325 now is ok. The ride is better! Go figure .....

pkw88

19-10-2006, 08:55 PM

Wait, wait, wait! pkw88 are you a mean-looking guy like the rest of us or are you a drop-dead gorgeous chick? :D (kidding) :D

Ha Ha and Christmas is just round the corner! :D No, I'm a middle-aged guy looking to recapture some of my youth. As my wife puts it, the 3series is my midlife crisis phase!!! :D :D I couldn't afford a 3 series then, and now I can. So this is my indulgence to myself.

Equalizer

19-10-2006, 09:23 PM

Thanks for all the input, guys ..... certainly helpful. I must admit that I am partial to the classy looks of the 159 and would be happy to keep these over a potential change to the 161. :) It's just that the tyres are making life very hard now :( and I am looking forward to getting rid of the RFTs.

Anyone out there wanna buy a set - they're only 2900km-old :rolleyes: .....

Devilkl

20-10-2006, 01:53 PM

has any onwners of CBU '05 325i experiencing problem with the ABS and active steering lights/indicator on? I jus cheked in my car in AB 2 days ago, was initially told that the problems were software issues. ..then found out that the ABS pressure switch is malfunction..anyway I don quite understand also.

AB told me to wait for 2 weeks to get the part from Germany. Meanwhile, I am driving with those indicators on..

KL2DC

20-10-2006, 07:32 PM

DevilKL: Wait...you mean Malaysia spec cars have active steering option standard??

David Yong

20-10-2006, 07:50 PM

DevilKL: Wait...you mean Malaysia spec cars have active steering option standard??

Yup, Active Steering is standard for Malaysia spec e90 cars.

pkw88

21-10-2006, 07:12 AM

Yup, Active Steering is standard for Malaysia spec e90 cars.

Initially after reading some comments in other forums, I was wandering whether I would be able to get use to AS. Now that I have used it for a while, I don't think I ever want another BMW without AS (unless I struck the lottery and was going to buy an M-series :D )! The system really comes into its own at low speeds, and I can turn round 90 degree corners with only half turn of lock.

danc

21-10-2006, 09:36 AM

Agree with all of you about AS. I love it both while driving slowly and when you pick up speed. People say that you need some time to get use to it but I got use to it in just a day. The main thing to watch out is when you reverse park as the angle of turn is greater. Bottmline, god permiting I will always tick the AS option in any future BMW that I get.

Devil,
If I were you, I would not let AB off the hook so easily. Drive around with those warning lights on?? So what happens if something happens (touch wood) is AB responsible. I would leave my car at AB and get them to give me a temp car to use while my parts arrive. If not get them to sign a letter that you have been given complete assurance that nothing major will happen and i it does, you have the right to take them to court. Just my 2 sens.

BimmerM3

21-10-2006, 10:49 AM

Damn AB is still not good enough huh? These guys really too busy? too many cars to attend to? and quality of work......erm going down? This shouldnt happen, it happen to me many time on certain job. They claim it is fix and after sometime problem persist. Feel like giving up on them at times!

danc

21-10-2006, 11:52 AM

KL2DC

21-10-2006, 10:20 PM

KL2DC

21-10-2006, 10:26 PM

Yup, Active Steering is standard for Malaysia spec e90 cars.

Pretty cool...thats a $1,250 option here....pricey :eek: I guess your cars are pretty loaded.

Could someone please post detailed pics of their cars/interior...curious to see what other standard equipment differences we have.

I'm gonna go against the grain and say that I am still not convinced on Active Steering...yes I have sampled AS before. Call me a purist :p

megatnh

22-10-2006, 05:26 PM

hi guys
my 320ise seems to emit a slight rattling/vibration/clicking sound at 2000-2500 rpm. couldnt figure it out where the source from...it is running fine when it gets to 3000rpm and above. Wont here it if I m driving in the city but once u r drivin thru the quiet area the sound is pretty audible

thot it was the engine belting, initially...still cudnt get use to the diesel engine sound for my beemer...japs car is refine in this area...

pkw88

23-10-2006, 10:21 AM

Guys,

Just got my Blacklines fitted, total costs RM 1297. Looks so cool! Donnie, sorry couldn't wait for you coming back. Saving up for the rear spoiler next.

David Yong

23-10-2006, 11:01 AM

pkw88... wow you got a good deal :)
post some pics pls....

uchan

23-10-2006, 12:26 PM

Hi guys,

I just wondering where can i find those original part (original skirt) of BMW E90 (325i)? Is it called a skirt? mm..

I got a bad day recently (T_T) I've bang the concrete just outside my house just to avoid (specific to say, give way to the farker) the farker driver using wrong lane to go into the housing area.

Lucky to say that, my door got no problem. (sigh) But the skirt... (T_T) And now the skirt like.. you-know, the paint came out abit, and the end-side of the skirt near the tyre there came out..

How am i going to do next? Any suggestions? Go back to Auto Bavaria? Or can fix it outside? Will the warranty void?

KL2DC

23-10-2006, 01:31 PM

Guys...just wrapped up a huge BMW meet earlier today. 49 cars and 80+ attendees.

Will post some BCM specific pics tomorrow, in the meanwhile check out:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34131

KL2DC

23-10-2006, 01:32 PM

Guys,

Just got my Blacklines fitted, total costs RM 1297. Looks so cool! Donnie, sorry couldn't wait for you coming back. Saving up for the rear spoiler next.

It's all cool....be sure to post pics.

KL2DC

23-10-2006, 01:33 PM

uchan

23-10-2006, 05:50 PM

Any body shop should be able to take care of it. No you won't void the warranty, especially for something as minor as the sideskirt. You can go back to AB or a reputable bodyshop...its just one piece, pops right off. See if they can save it, refinish and repaint.

So, roughly how much? =(

mm.. The sideskirt has bengkok out a bit at the end part of the sideskirt.. Hopefully they (AB, or bodyshop) can save it! (>,<) But, I'll take back to AB first, see how thing goes. (T_T)

uchan

23-10-2006, 05:52 PM

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34131

is this a good website to join so? =P No offences ^_^

David Yong

23-10-2006, 06:01 PM

www.e90post.com
you can learn a lot about your e90 from this website
same goes for this website....
by the way... u never did a proper introduction of yourself to everyone of us :(

KL2DC

23-10-2006, 06:43 PM

www.e90post.com (http://www.e90post.com)
you can learn a lot about your e90 from this website
same goes for this website....
by the way... u never did a proper introduction of yourself to everyone of us :(

+1

especially for DIYs and part numbers....but you learn alot (especially local content) from this website as well.

pkw88

23-10-2006, 07:10 PM

pkw88... wow you got a good deal :)
post some pics pls....

Bought from AB SB. Part was just over 1100 & labour cost 77 & service tax of 5% on top brought everything to about 1200. The parts guy there, Kevin, had 1 more set in stock, so if you hurry David, you too can get one on your ride! :D

KL2DC

23-10-2006, 07:17 PM

Bought from AB SB. Part was just over 1100 & labour cost 77 & service tax of 5% on top brought everything to about 1200. The parts guy there, Kevin, had 1 more set in stock, so if you hurry David, you too can get one on your ride! :D

You could've saved 77 ringgit by DIY'ing....it's very easy, 15-20 minutes at most :D

pkw88

23-10-2006, 09:27 PM

You could've saved 77 ringgit by DIY'ing....it's very easy, 15-20 minutes at most :D

I'm also a klutz when it comes to DIY, so 77 ringgit to let the expert do the fitting was worth it. If I did the assembly (as per instructions on e90 forum) I would probably have broken one of the mounting pins etc. :o

rookie

23-10-2006, 09:59 PM

Bought from AB SB. Part was just over 1100 & labour cost 77 & service tax of 5% on top brought everything to about 1200. The parts guy there, Kevin, had 1 more set in stock, so if you hurry David, you too can get one on your ride! :D

Wow, that is a good price. Is AB having some promotion or this is the list price? :rolleyes:

pkw88

23-10-2006, 10:13 PM

Wow, that is a good price. Is AB having some promotion or this is the list price? :rolleyes:

Not that I know! :) The parts manager thought it was a good deal too. At first he thought maybe he had gotten the price wrong. We checked but that was the price quoted on the computer system. It wasn't the RM 2000+ that David was quoted a while back. It's still more expensive than what you could find in the US but not too much plus you get local warranty. :)

All in all, worth buying at that price.

David Yong

24-10-2006, 12:16 AM

Not that I know! :) The parts manager thought it was a good deal too. At first he thought maybe he had gotten the price wrong. We checked but that was the price quoted on the computer system. It wasn't the RM 2000+ that David was quoted a while back. It's still more expensive than what you could find in the US but not too much plus you get local warranty. :)

All in all, worth buying at that price.

Yup, I was quoted RM 2k by AB (few months back) and RM 1.8k by some accessories shops outside.

Well you are absolutely right.... it's worthwhile at this price especially you would get a local warranty :)

uchan

24-10-2006, 09:17 PM

I'm a hot blooded young man. =P

Nice to meet you all.

JV88

25-10-2006, 02:26 PM

pkw88

25-10-2006, 09:19 PM

pkw88, when u fitted the blacklines? I'd fitted the smoke tailamps at the same AB last friday....yup, its cheap & look nice also especially my car is black....went to the AB SB to ask about the M-aero kit...get quoted RM12k....then I asked abt the smoke tailamps, & installed it on the spot...:D

I had mine installed about 11 am on friday. What time did you come in? Did we miss each other? Would have been cool to have met up.

The parts guy said someone had come to buy the last set of blacklines he had in stock. Apparently they're going like hot cakes (thankfully, I had reserved mine :) )

M5port

25-10-2006, 09:42 PM

Didn't notive till today that the E90 does not come with the "shark fin" antenna for the radio. The brochures pics shows there is, so I guess we have the in-built antenna on the rear windscreen?

KL2DC in the US do you guys have the fin? Or is it just my car???

KL2DC quote ""Yep, we have the shark fin. All US cars are pre-wired for telephone prep that's why we have the fin. The fin is quite versatile, it serves: the navi, satellite radio, telephone and terestial radio ( I think).""

Well the shark fin as i have found out from the BMW experience event held recently, was actually of all of what KL2DC said except to be used as an antenna for the Radio. The antenna for the radio are on the windscreens. The shark fin is like a mini-satellite for all the communication and navigation devices. My E60 has it, and so is the E63.

So like you, all these while i thought too that was the antenna for radio, and it spawned so many replicas for other car models !!!

KL2DC

25-10-2006, 11:17 PM

M5port: Correct...terrestial radio is on rear screen along with comfort access receiver. Bluetooth antenna is inside the car. Satellite radio feeds off the shark fin. Btw as the Navi depends on the external fin, its ok to use metallic window tints on your E90s with the exception of Comfort Access equipped cars who have their CA receivers on the rear screen.

KL2DC

11-11-2006, 06:18 AM

To bring some life back to this thread...

On the subject of 328i E90 ...

From a BMW insider in S Africa:

I have seen the 328i is on a list for possible release in certain markets outside North America, but I think it would just be for markets where they couldnt release the new Direct Injection N53 due to fuel problems or something like that ( so a very limited market release )

I also personally think they will drop the 328i in the USA, probably around the facelift in 2008 and replace it with a Direct Injection 330i ( USA should have the correct fuel by then) ( some may be wondering about the fuel in the 335i, the US version doesnt run the very lean burn maps yet due to the fuel )

Info:
From wikipedia:

The BMW (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW) N53 will be BMW's latest and most modern straight-6 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straight-6) engine, which will debut sometime around 2007-2009. It is an improvement on the N52 Naturally Aspirated (NA) engine mainly since it has gasoline direct injection (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline_Direct_Injection) technology. However, it will not contain Valvetronic due to space limitations in the cylinder head.

Specific vehicle models, engine sizes or other details are still sketchy at best. The 2.5 liter has unimproved power 215hp, but enhanced torque, to 199ft-lbs. The 3.0 liter has improved power to 268hp as well as improved torque. The N53 will be BMW's 14th generation production straight six engine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straight-6).

KL2DC

11-11-2006, 06:22 AM

There were some concerns about BMW AB introducing a 328i model in the upcoming MY or two. Well, as I stand and confirmed with the BMW insider, introducing a low output variant of the 3 litre N52 engine to make the 328i does not make sense in a displacement taxed market (like Malaysia). If they wanted to bring in the 3 litre, they will opt for the high output version of the N52B30.

A possibility is the introduction of the N53B25 engine which as I earlier posted, a further development of the N52 family with direct injection.

"The main advantge of the DI engine is lower fuel usage, not power.
Being a 2nd generation DI technoloy engine, it has a "lean burn" mode, which requires high temperature catalytic converters.

Thee high temperature catalytic conerters are very sensitive to sulphur in fuel. New EU regulations on fuel have only come into effect recently, and car manufacturers have had to wait for it to be implemented.

Not all world markets will have the fuel, so not all will get the DI engine.
The 335i hs left out the "lean burn" mode for now."

The Sedan will also get the more powerfull engine in due course. BMW has even allowed some journalists to drive the DI ones in E90 330i already.

KL2DC

11-11-2006, 06:28 AM

Btw in case you were wondering, there are more differences than previously thought on the N52 variant used in the new for '07 328i. Yes both the 325i and 328i have single stage intakes but the N52B30 used in the 07 328i is detuned version of the 2007 X3 3.0Si's engine (the 328i using the single stage intake). Btw the N52B30 (K-variant) in the X3 3.0Si makes 272hp (compare with the 330i's 255hp and the 325i's 215hp). What a spread for what is essentially the same engine.

N52KB30 has:

1) New engine management software
2) New digital airflow meter
3) New valve cover
4) New connecting rods
5) New exhaust valve stems
6) New electric water pump
7) New camshafts

Its quite confusing the track the N52 family in depth...with all the various sub-variants/state of tune e.g. N52B30O, N52B30M, N52N30U, N52B30K

KL2DC

11-11-2006, 06:32 AM

Btw the E93 will be the first to run on the new N53 engines (for non US markets)...E93 330i

Schwepps

11-11-2006, 12:02 PM

You're making us very jealous KL2DC! I doubt if we'll see any of these variants until they come in as reconds. Had a chat with a senior guy from SD at an HR open house and he said he doesn't see much change in their E90 lineup for next year (sniff!) He could be wrong of course, but then SD owns AB.

beemers3

17-11-2006, 09:49 AM

hi guys,

been sometimes it been a busy month.... my dealer just call me and i am suppose to collect my replacement car today... will keep you all update with the progress......

hopefully it doesn't give me any more problems

finger cross!!!!!!!!!!!!!

pkw88

17-11-2006, 04:39 PM

beemers3

18-11-2006, 09:38 AM

hi guys, collected my car yesterday, everything was in good condition,,,, Seong Hoe gave me a bmw umbrella for free.... but there seems to be one problem... the right hand headlamp seems a little fog up after rain... but it goes away after a while.... any problem with that.... I will be doing the detailing later in the day... hopefully will be able to post some pic today or tomorrow... I also has got the chrome exhaust tip fitted....

now will be wating for the aerokit to come in....... I place a order in singapore for the whole entire kit for SG2500 except the carbonfibre lip which IMO is overly price...

Probably next month i will be able to drive over and fix it!!!!!

danc

18-11-2006, 11:40 AM

beemer,

If yr lights are fogging up u shld insist that BMW M change them for you as it's a PDI defect. I am getting AB to change my foglights and front lamps as there are minor defects, ie slightly cloudy and slight scratch.

By the way I have PM you on a question. TQ

KL2DC

19-11-2006, 12:06 AM

danc...not so fast there buddy.

The fogging issue is not an uncommon issue here in the US. The headlights are not sealed, there is a vent in the back of the housing to aid cooling as the bi-xenons generate quite some heat.

I too have experienced some fogging in wet weather especially in humid conditions. This issues props up when I drive around with the angel eyes on only in said conditions. But when I turn on the main lights, the condensation is kept checked. A BMW tech said that as long as the condensation burns off within 5-10 minutes with the main headlights on, it is within spec. Now in late fall with november rains I do not see the problem as often as I did during hot steamy summer rains.

The other issue I had was with the fog light units fogging but I remembered I had changed out the bulbs during one humid day so I went back and aired out the units on a drier day and I haven't seen fogging of the fog lights any more since then...

beemers3

19-11-2006, 04:58 PM

i think KL2DC is right the fogging went away after a while..... so i shouldn't think this is a big issue.... had a very long day yesterday!!!! wash and Polish wax the car.... it now gave a brillaint shine.... the only problem is that Sparkling graphite is very hard to stand out because the colour is quite dull.... but anyway I am a happy man!!! do you guys organise any outstation drive like from KL to Melaka!!! or over to JB for Makan and back to KL!!!!

pkw88

19-11-2006, 08:06 PM

Juan Powerblow

20-11-2006, 03:16 PM

Wow. Just read through this thread and found it to be very informative. You guys are truly thorough-bred E90 sages. I'm glad to know whenever I upgrade to an E90, I got this resource to count on.

I was at AB Glenmarie over the weekend and was told there are 11 E90 325i pre reg @ Nov 2006 for sale at RM25K discount i.e. RM263K. These cars will be used as demo cars for the Monsoon Cup and will only incur 3,000 kms in mileage before delivery to you in mid-Dec. Sounds like a good deal but E46Fanatic alluded to the prospect of an engine upgrade discussed here.

I'm still pretty happy with my E46 325i even though it's already 5-years old. The thought of getting an E90 is very tempting though. Yet again, I can probably wait till the facelift in early 2008. It would be nice to have a 230 bhp 325i by then. Yet again, why wait when you can start enjoying the E90 and its current 218 bhp now. Headache!

danc

20-11-2006, 03:36 PM

Juan,

I heard abt the Monsoon Cup cars as well. The 320i are going for RM 215K, 523 - RM 323K. The good thing is it's MY06 cars, the bad side is it's a demo car for 3000km. I am very worried of getting "demo" cars because when I go and demo a car...I really trash them to see how it feels before I buy. In a way tats why I got the E90 ;) . To me the break-in period is important. But after saying this I have also in the past bought 2nd hand cars and they were trouble free.

Hv you read this months Autocar magazine where a E46 325 owner wrote comparing the E90 325? I completely agree with his take on the diff. To me I cant really tell the diff in terms of power (maybe my engine has not fully run in yet) but the handling diff....wow. Like the saying goes (like heaven and earth) This could be because of the staggered setup so not sure.

Cheers

Juan Powerblow

20-11-2006, 03:52 PM

Thanks danc. I also had a good experience with my ex-E36 which was secondhand but trouble free. While I can appreciate the merits of running-in a new car properly, I'm wondering how adversely would 3,000 kms of "thrashing" affect a new BMW? Then there's the other perspective - would you rent out your car to AB for a month to use as demo for a RM25,000 fee? I think I might, heh!

I also read the Autocar article which I found to be very insightful in distinguishing the E46 and E90 325i. I was especially enthralled by the better low end torque delivery in the E90 which was described as tardy in the E46. That really appealed to me a lot.

uchan

20-11-2006, 05:20 PM

hey guys,

I just wondering how much will it be for the maintenance fee for E90 after the warranty has expired?

Usually where to service your toy after the warranty expired?

Thanks!

3er

20-11-2006, 05:29 PM

I'm still pretty happy with my E46 325i even though it's already 5-years old. The thought of getting an E90 is very tempting though. Yet again, I can probably wait till the facelift in early 2008. It would be nice to have a 230 bhp 325i by then. Yet again, why wait when you can start enjoying the E90 and its current 218 bhp now. Headache!

Same thoughts with JPB here. Still love my E46 evethough its at a stage where (Inspection II) maintenance bills start coming in.

Where engine running in is concerned, i have no qualms in pushing it gradually. First few months of owning my E46 and i was convoying up to Genting in one of the earlier BMWC gatherings/drive events and was red-lining it in "manual" Steptronic mode. There are many thoughts on this, so follow what you like to believe in. Thats all. My M54 is free-revving today and hasnt seen anything apart from regular oil and filter changes.

Juan Powerblow

21-11-2006, 07:39 PM

Same thoughts with JPB here. Still love my E46 evethough its at a stage where (Inspection II) maintenance bills start coming in.

Where engine running in is concerned, i have no qualms in pushing it gradually. First few months of owning my E46 and i was convoying up to Genting in one of the earlier BMWC gatherings/drive events and was red-lining it in "manual" Steptronic mode. There are many thoughts on this, so follow what you like to believe in. Thats all. My M54 is free-revving today and hasnt seen anything apart from regular oil and filter changes.

I noticed the engine's been particularly nice with the cooler climate in the evenings nowadays. Sheer joy! I've clocked more than 100,000 kms and the engine's still a peach! I wonder has anyone done a PNDC sprint test between the E90 and E46 325i. How far is the E90 ahead here? I'm not trying to compare dicks, merely curious.

uchan

26-11-2006, 06:20 PM

pkw88

26-11-2006, 08:22 PM

Just now I had a ride with my E90, just I wanted to accelerate, the car didnt move at all, it just remained at 40km/h, and I felt that I have full throttle it, the "Energy Control" tacho-meter was stagnanted at 20, I didn't notice the RPM of the Revolution Counter. And I have called the salesman, he told me he will follow a technician with him tomorrow to see whats happening.
So, whats going on with it? I'm very curious, this baby is just one month only.

Our e90s are equipped with a special speed limiter. There is a camera mounted on the front that detects the speed limit warning signs and limits the speed of your ride appropriately. This is cutting edge technology! :D

On a more serious note, it may be something simple like the OBC just needing a tune up. That OBC seems to have fingers in every system in the cars.

uchan

28-11-2006, 01:05 AM

Our e90s are equipped with a special speed limiter. There is a camera mounted on the front that detects the speed limit warning signs and limits the speed of your ride appropriately. This is cutting edge technology! :D

On a more serious note, it may be something simple like the OBC just needing a tune up. That OBC seems to have fingers in every system in the cars.
pkw88 ^_^ Ya, you're right, I have noticed this function too. quite useful, doesnt need to throttle on federal highway even jam. (above action was performed by "professional", try at your own risk :p)
Well, the toy has sent to the service centre. They told me that the setting has "gone". I asked "why?", he replied "sometimes like this".... (T_T)
So, need to reset the setting of the car.. Most probably is to reset the ECU setting? hehe just a wild guess, because the acclerator and the oil-air-mixture doesn't flow that smooth (which is not according to the ratio), thats why, even i full throttle, the car still remained at the same speed (40km/h), but once i stopped (the engine still alive), the car started to cough.. (T_T)
Please correct me if im wrong. Noobie here. =P

shuksE90

28-11-2006, 09:13 AM

Makan outstations sounds great! I'm game! Any one else?

I miss those days before I started working... But I guess I don't mind tagging along on some weekends? :P

Come on guys!

T. Malim for Pau; Melaka for Ikan Bakar; JB for wat ah? Chicks? heheh :p No lah I mean, the infamous Restoran Singgahsana.

Shuks

uchan

04-12-2006, 09:13 PM

Actually it was the "valve-tronics" not functioning.. AB has replaced a new one for me.. :(

Spaceman

04-12-2006, 10:36 PM

is yours CBU or CKD? 320i or 325i?

rookie

05-12-2006, 11:05 AM

Actually it was the "valve-tronics" not functioning.. AB has replaced a new one for me.. :(

Wow :eek: this is news to me especially for a new car...Is yours a CKD/CBU?

325xi

25-12-2006, 11:02 PM

rookie

26-12-2006, 05:52 AM

hi,
I own my car for almost a year and my milage is about 10K miles now.
Before starting the engine there are indicators showing 9000 miles and date 12/2006. Is it time to do the servicing?

There is no service light lit up yet.

Looks like you have passed the threshold. 9,000 miles means you should send in your car when you have reached 9,000 miles on your tripmeter, but you have about 10,000 miles now. An additional 1K miles shouldn't be an issue

325xi

26-12-2006, 10:11 PM

I just called the service center, they said that the indicator (9000 miles) means I have 9000 miles more before service is due.
Is this correct?

David Yong

02-01-2007, 01:01 AM

I just called the service center, they said that the indicator (9000 miles) means I have 9000 miles more before service is due.
Is this correct?

If the indicator shows 9,000 miles, then it means that you should send it in for service when your mileage reaches 9,000 miles. Not that you have 9,000 miles more before service is due. Well.... that was what my SA told me before. Whatever shown is the indication of the mileage for next service.

meetoo

02-01-2007, 11:59 PM

hi,
I own my car for almost a year and my milage is about 10K miles now.
Before starting the engine there are indicators showing 9000 miles and date 12/2006. Is it time to do the servicing?

Your service center is nuts. Are they trying to tell you to wait until 19,000 miles (30,000km) and nearly 2 years old before servicing it? :eek: I don't think that's logical for any motor oil or oil filter to last so long. Looks like it's 9,000 miles or 12/2006, whichever come first.

rookie

03-01-2007, 01:35 PM

I just called the service center, they said that the indicator (9000 miles) means I have 9000 miles more before service is due.
Is this correct?

You better get a second opinion or seek opinion from another SA. My understanding is if your indicator shows 9000 miles, you should send in the car when your odo shows 9000km. It doesn't mean you have 9000 miles to go.

325xi

03-01-2007, 09:49 PM

I called 2 service centers and they gave the same answer!
One of them told me it is normal to have service at 21000 Miles!!

Anyway, I already book a service appointment for next tuesday.

Thank guys!

meetoo

05-01-2007, 10:40 PM

That's a good move. I would never run an engine with oil and filter that's more than 1 year old, even if the best synthetic oil. Normally I change every 6 months no matter what the mileage. Oil is cheap, an engine is not.

Are you based in Boston like your avatar says? Interesting that US service centers say that!

David Yong

05-01-2007, 10:50 PM

325xi

12-01-2007, 11:31 PM

David Yong

14-01-2007, 11:45 AM

Spaceman

14-01-2007, 11:45 PM

David Yong

15-01-2007, 12:06 AM

been looking at lots and lots of rims in the last couple of weeks and cant really settle with one i really like....

think i am too picky...:D

if i ever consider the Original ACS Type IV Racing 19" staggered, is it worth to invest?

This is the best rims I saw so far that can fit nicely into an e90. But it's expensive.... unless you go for the replicas.

a|an

15-01-2007, 10:06 PM

This is the best rims I saw so far that can fit nicely into an e90. But it's expensive.... unless you go for the replicas.

Aren't replicas usually heavier?

Spaceman

15-01-2007, 11:40 PM

just got the official weight for 19" Type IV Racing staggered.

19x8.5 - 12.5 kg
19x9.5 - 13.8 kg

dont think i am going for such heavy rims and cost RM18K!

KL2DC

16-01-2007, 03:30 AM

Ok, went to sevice my car last tuesday.
They changed the oil, filter, wiper blades and one light bulb all for free.:)

But they didn't record it in the service booklet because they said it is not the actual service due time yet! (remember they said I have another 9000 miles to go). I have to go again after 8000 miles...

I complained about the humming RFT, but I wasn't lucky enough to get free tires.:(
They showed me a quote of $470 for two tires...so I said nevermind....

BMW NA policy on scheduled maintenance also states annually irregardless of mileage. Your SA should've reset the counter for you. But I guess it works in your advantage as you'll be getting another interim oil change foc :p

Wrt RFT, did you buy the extra-cost tire insurance? The dealership's not going to do anything for you but I have heard of some owners getting recourse through Bridgestone directly. If you look through your owners manual there should be some paperwork for the tire warranty. I'll give them a call and complain to them first. Some have mentioned getting some attention from local tire dealers.

If you argue well that they are defective tires (and they are!), they will either replace said tires or credit you so you can buy your own non-rft tires.

FYI my two front tires been 'humming' and grinding at low speeds since summer. I think we have the same Bridgestone EL42s set up.

Haven't been bothered to get them checked yet, been a busy month or so.

Good Luck!

Spaceman

20-01-2007, 11:39 PM

getting some 19", cant seem to find my favorite so far. any suggestions guys?

Type IV has that long lasting look on bimmers, any comments?

David Yong

21-01-2007, 01:12 PM

Yup, I love the Type IV too :)

3er

22-01-2007, 02:18 PM

Personally i think 19" is excessive for KL roads. But YMMV. I'd go for ACS type IV or BBS.

XXX

22-01-2007, 02:31 PM

so nobody here want to check out Sapuras new 3s centre which includes test drive of all available models (the car) and free diagnostic and inspection. Cars bought in AB also wellcome FYI you can do your service at SA even if u bought at AB and warranty will not void.

danc

22-01-2007, 03:50 PM

XXX,

All models to test? Interested if they have the M5/M6 for us to have a go in it.
Possible?

XXX

22-01-2007, 05:13 PM

yes all models to test ...if they have it then youre more than wellcome...

KL2DC

23-01-2007, 12:30 AM

So we finally got our first snow of the season here in mid-atlantic. Yes the weather has been weird. Did you hear about the snow shower in Malibu, CA a week ago?

Not much, 1-2 inch accumulation with tapering freezing rain. The low level of snow among saturday traffic meant the snow was packed tightly onto the pavement making for a slick surface.

Finally had a chance to test out the car's DSC/DTC fully, previous experience had been with wet pavement. I've been waiting so long for this. Yes, I am such a child :D

Observations:

1) The DSC's threshold is higher than you'd expect it to be. Taking turns and accelerating, the car will wag its tail/spin its rear wheels momentarily. So a modicum of common sense is stil required and some active intervention in the form of counter steer to keep it all together on public roads. I'd say there was an average of close to a second's lag until the systems kick in and lights start flashing. I like this better than the Lexus' VSC/Trac which cuts power at the slightest slip. The E90's definitely more entertaining/perfomance oriented.

2) On a parking lot, I pushed the car a bit more with DSC. As the rear end steps out of line, again you do get a slip angle. When the DSC kicks in, it feels like a big hand is pushing the rear end back into shape. Makes the car feel sure footed, gave me much confidence. This is in low to medium speeds. No high speed antics attempted.

3) The DTC works well. I went up a slippery and shinyslope and decided DTC would be required. I hit the DSC button once and gave it the gas pedal a quarter boot. There is more tire spin than DSC but after the momentary lag, you can feel the rear end start gripping away up the slope with less tail wag than with full DSC. It almost feels like an LSD in full lock.

4) Tires suck big time! Horrible tires. The car shouldn't be losing grip so soon. The RFT Bridgestone EL42s need considerable warming up to even perform minimally in the slushy stuff. I can't see why or how BMW chose these tires as OEM. Thankfully for the safety systems but I felt the DSC/DTC should not have cut in at such a low speed.

I hope my short slick surface observations would come in handy for you guys, the fundamentals are similar in rain-soaked and greasy roads back home. Drive safe.

David Yong

23-01-2007, 12:38 AM

Good info & thanks for sharing :)

danc

23-01-2007, 10:26 AM

KL2DC,

U da man! Good info and keep up with the experience and updates.

KL2DC

26-01-2007, 01:17 AM

David Yong:

As per our discussion:

Blacklines on Titanium Silver from various angles. :)

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f143/kl2dc/Park6Small.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f143/kl2dc/Park4Small.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f143/kl2dc/Park7Small.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f143/kl2dc/Park3Small.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f143/kl2dc/Park2Small.jpg

How yours would look with a few choice mods...:D Just do it!
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f143/kl2dc/DSC00003Small.jpg

US versus Euro Tailight differences

US, turn signals (bulb and area) are all red
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f143/kl2dc/pict1034Small.jpg

Euro/world market turn signals (bulb and area) are amber
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f143/kl2dc/HPIM0968Small.jpg

WTT: If anyone wants to trade their euro spec tail lights for US spec tail lights, just let me know :)

danc

26-01-2007, 10:05 AM

IMO, somehow the blacklines looks better on darker colored cars.

Juan Powerblow

26-01-2007, 01:25 PM

I luv the rear spoilers on the E90. It looks very well integrated and despite the size, makes the car look much fiercer!

Schwepps

26-01-2007, 01:51 PM

I like the E90 rear-end - I don't know why there's so much criticism of it. It's solid looking and classy.

IMO the US turn signals look better. Also IMHO, the reverse lights look better as is. That avant garde unfinished look is what makes the rear distinctive to me, whereas the blacklines make it look more Jap to me. I bet the Japs will be copying the whitelines look soon. Sorry KL2DC, but one man's meat...

Juan Powerblow

26-01-2007, 01:58 PM

Schwepps

26-01-2007, 04:09 PM

Mitsubishi Carisma? Can't have much Charisma if I don't even know what is looks like! :)

meetoo

27-01-2007, 04:43 PM

Is there much accessories available here for the E90 yet? Like this black lines, etc? Still wondering whether to go for E90 or late E46!!

gremlins

27-01-2007, 06:37 PM

i am considering of buying e90 325i sports version or second hand e60 525i m-sport? the price is almost the same but i need feedback from u guys who has a good experience of the two. thanks.

Schwepps

27-01-2007, 08:50 PM

Welcome gremlins. Both should be great cars, but as the E90 325i Sports hasn't even been launched yet, nobody has driven one yet.

KL2DC

27-01-2007, 11:24 PM

i am considering of buying e90 325i sports version or second hand e60 525i m-sport? the price is almost the same but i need feedback from u guys who has a good experience of the two. thanks.

E90 325i Sports

+'s

-Standard navi
-Brand new with full warranty and color selection
-Comparable interior space
-Better power to weight ratio

E60 525i Sports

+'s

-Bigger car, bigger image
-Trunk/boot is notcieably larger
-looks like an M5 :D
-Larger rear passenger space

Dynamically they are similar with a touch more refinement on the E60 side wrt interior appointments/materials/build. I am quite surprised to note how similar they feel out on an auto-x style course. There was a bigger difference (in feel) between the E46 and E39 eventhough they were about the same size. Stylingwise, I am leaning more on the E90, it looks more balanced than the E60. And of course, warranty and color selection is important to me.

David Yong

28-01-2007, 12:44 AM

i am considering of buying e90 325i sports version or second hand e60 525i m-sport? the price is almost the same but i need feedback from u guys who has a good experience of the two. thanks.

If you want a new car with warranty and hassle free... then e90 325i sports will be a good choice.

But if you dun mind secondhand car.... then e60 525i sports will do.

Personally.... for me I will prefer e60 525i sports.....but i would prefer buying new because I dun like secondhand car and have bad experiences with secondhand car. I would prefer new car with warranty and less hassle.

gremlins

29-01-2007, 10:15 AM

.....how's about interiorwise of the two...cockpit..dashboard...legroom..accessories..e tc..

E46Fanatic

29-01-2007, 11:31 AM

i am considering of buying e90 325i sports version or second hand e60 525i m-sport? the price is almost the same but i need feedback from u guys who has a good experience of the two. thanks.

Wow thats a really good deal for the E60 525i sports. Most of the used E60 525i sport were advertised ~RM360-370k.

If you are getting it for Rm300k, the first owner took a depreciation bullet of Rm100k per year heh.

danc

29-01-2007, 01:40 PM

RM 300K for E60 525 sports sounds too good to be true if it was a 1-2 year old car. I would be cautious and will really check the history of that car.

If all checks out, for me it's a no brainer, I'd go for the 525 anytime.

KL2DC

07-02-2007, 12:15 AM

Update time... (long write-up)

My service light came on at 13,500 miles, I managed to come in for my first scheduled maintenance stop at 13,850. Its hard to schedule an appointment at the last minute. I ended up going to a different dealer.

Oil light came on at after about 11 months of service at 13,500 miles in mostly urban cycle driving. I think some folks have to wait until 16,000-18,000 miles or 1 year whichever comes first (BMW NA's policy is minimum 1 year).

Within that period, the car consumed about 2.5 quarts of oil and needed a coolant system top up at 11,000 miles. Other than 3 windshield wiper fluid refills, the car didn't need any other attention in the engine bay area.

Note: I did not do an interim oil change (halfway) despite my constant advice/harping as I had decided this one will not be a keeper. I still advice this to the new E90 owners, don't be a cheap bastard like me :D

Btw, same time last year, the car was going through the production line process in Regensburg, so its coming up to its first birthday on Feb 09 :) Yeah!

Observations

1) I must say the engine is feeling good after the oil change. I have reported earlier that the N52 engine feels better after 10k miles but the 1st oil change is icing on the cake. The engine (feels) pull stronger especially at the higher RPMs and feels smoother. Nice! For the first time, I am beginning to feel the benefits of the K&N filter I put in in the form of slightlylouder intake sound. Of course the cold air we've been having also helps in the power department. Again, this is my subjective notations.

Those of you who mentioned how the 325i feels sluggish during test drive need to know that this engine opens up after proper break-in and proper initialization of the steptronic to your driving style.

2) The oil meter took a few hours to register the new oil. I only got a full oil reading the next morning. Initially, I had thought the service center didn't fill up the oil to the max level. Same goes for the OBC service reminders. After pick up, the OBC didn't allow me to cycle through the various service items (brakes, filters etc). I thought there might've been a software glitch when they updated the service monitor and had made a note to ring up the SA the next day. But all the service items monitors came on the next day (along with the proper oil level).

3) Looks like the next service item is the rear brakes at 13,000 miles. Its a bit weird to see the rear brakes burning up faster than the front brakes (19,000 miles). I would've expected the brakes to last until 40,000-50,000 miles but it looks like I'll expect some new brake pads at close to 30k miles.

4) Thank heavens for Full Maintenance :p

Warranty Items

1) SA addressed dash rattling by changing out the useless dash cupholder units. Apparently, this part has been redesigned so for those of you with passenger side dash rattles, get your SA to change the cupholders out.

2) SA addressed door clicking sounds. I brought the TSB for this so he knew what to do. Basically, they had to retorque and adjust the doors' striker plates and re-lube the door seals. It works! I had previously bought some Gummi Pflege to lube the seals myself but they have a more potent lube.

3) There is a TSB for squeaks in the area where the center stack meets the center console. This is a temperature-dependent issue, the TSB calls for application of felt tape in this close tolerance area.

4) Rear passenger door actuator is off. Special part needs to be ordered from Germany. Follow up appointment made. Basically, my rear right door stopped responding to the center dash/remote unlock. A bit annoying since this door is the curbside door so my rear passengers had to open the door through the front door. Not very elegant :eek: This issue is compounded as I have set my autolock to on.

5) I have an old problem I haven't really addressed, with the front passenger recognition mat. Its more of an aesthetic problem (seat bottom is lumpy with some bulges). SA ordered new seat, will come in with the door actuator.

6) SA tried to get me full replacement for my RFTs. They are starting to roar/howl but not quite as bad yet. The 16" and 17" Bridgestone Turanzas RFTs are prone to cupping/uneven wear. A new TSB (Bulletin 36 06 06) has been released for the RFTs. BMW is replacing the defective sets 100% for cars under 10k miles and will foot 50% of the bill for cars with more than 10k miles (max 20k miles). I tried to argue that the tires have less than 10k miles (saying I have another set for the summer), but the manager wasn't buying it :rolleyes: and would only offer 50% as per the TSB which amounted to close to $500 for new Continentals (BMW foots all labor charges). I wasn't thrilled with paying $500 at this time so I decided to sit on this for a while. I'm going to take my case with BMW NA.

They did readjust the pressures and rotated the tires. The SA didn't tell me but I noticed. As the tires have a particular groove in them at the different corners, the car feels a bit different now and is pulling (very slightly) to the left on certain surfaces. Will complain about this, but how to tell which tire belongs in which corner? This sucks a bit... Might also do an alignment the next time.

Summary

As you can see that having a CBU car is no guarantee you won't have minor warranty issues (annoying at most). BUT mechanically, the car has been a trooper. I do mostly urban driving with some ocassional hard driving on the weekends and the car basically hasn't skipped a beat. At close to one year, the interior is wearing well, still looks showroom fresh. But most importantly, the car still FEELS showroom fresh i.e. tight, stiff and peppy.

Still very satisfied with my purchase. I'm a big stickle for interior quality/materials. That's why the W-203 C-Class MB could've never cut it. I would put the E90's interior is close runner up to Audi's but way ahead of the W-203. The Japanese are nice but lacks the assuring weighted controls of the BMW.

Gripes :mad:

Not a day goes by where I don't regret not getting the Sports package and the manual transmission. Also regretted not getting heated seats, the seats get frigid during those cold morning. :eek:

I'm still not convinced of the RFTs for comfort (ride is still jarring), its more trouble than they're worth. I still hate the central dash located central lock button. The paint could be better (rock chip and micro scratch prone). I wish for less brake dust. A bigger trunk space would be appreciated. Better plastic of the secondary switch gear would be nice (BMW have nicer knobs on the MY07s)

Also, the BMW Service network could be better (like Lexus).

What's next

I am upgrading to a staggered 18" set up this month (wheel type 197 on performance Potenzas RFTs). The 156s will be relegated to winter duty.

Also the front splitters will come on. Considered dropping the car on H&R Sport springs but have changed my mind. DC streets are too brutal for that kind of set-up.

Will post pics...

Of course, still counting pennies for the big upgrade in the year (or two) to come :D Not 100% sure though, if the N54 is too much for my daily requirements, or if the 328i is enough grunt. The 325i is serving my needs well right now.

Strut Bar/Brace considerations

Thinking of the OEM Strut Bar/Brace. Its a $250 item. I'm thinking about this part to stiffen up the front end. During cold weather when I hit a garage ramp at an angle I hear a quiet creak from the dash which is surprising as the car feels taut (creaks like that usually mean some chassis flexing :eek: ). On e90post I saw another member who was suffering from constant front creakings. His SA had dismantled and put together the dash a few times but the creaks remained. I discussed with him about the strut bar/brace idea and he said that he was thinking of the same solution as a last resort. So he finally convinced the SA to add the brace as a warranty solution and the problem was solved. So there might be an inherent but minor structural issue on some cars.

I am thinking that the strut bar might help quieten down the interior. Even after the service there are still some very quiet squeaks and rattles on very rough roads. Of couse we know the hard RFTs are compounding this problem everyday, the RFTs simply are not soft enough to cushion out the primary jarring/shocks that I suppose are slowly working the interior bits loose. So I suppose the strut brace (in addition to the factory brace in place) will help stiffen things up to minimize chassis flexing/shocks on my poor E90.

(PS: Guys post your experiences too....)

danc

07-02-2007, 10:18 AM

Wow

Thats a long read thanks for sharing, very informative. Do post pics once you have done the upgrades.

rookie

07-02-2007, 10:29 AM

Took my car in to AB for servicing on Saturday as the Service indicator lighted up on Friday (17,000km). Total damage is RM540. :( Items changed was the engine oil, oil filter and brake fluid. I also got them to change the 2 bonnet hooks as they were loose.

After close to 2 years of ownership, car is still great and loving it every moment. As it most owners, the only gripe is the RFT which doesn't suit our pot-holed filled roads. But I won't be changing them until they wear off

KL2DC

07-02-2007, 11:49 AM

rookie

07-02-2007, 11:57 AM

During the time when I got my E90, the "Service Inclusive" program was not part of the package, which is a standard package now

KL2DC

07-02-2007, 12:02 PM

During the time when I got my E90, the "Service Inclusive" program was not part of the package, which is a standard package now

cool! :)

RM540 is a bit much for what constitutes as a straight-up oil change. Whats the deal with the brake fluid change so early on...? :confused:

Schwepps

07-02-2007, 10:05 PM

KL2DC: Re your 24-inch post (I measured it :) ) a very interesting, informative read. Thanks.

Q. If you have so many gripes about RFTs and have been encouraging us to switch out, why aren't you switching out yourself?

KL2DC

07-02-2007, 11:17 PM

Q. If you have so many gripes about RFTs and have been encouraging us to switch out, why aren't you switching out yourself?

Simple...I'm cheap! :p

I paid for these tires, by gosh I want every thread's worth.... :D

KL2DC

07-02-2007, 11:57 PM

I love this picture...taken at the Performance Center in South Carolina.

"Don't Forget To Breathe" - all those 335i E90s

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f143/kl2dc/IMG_0019Small.jpg

L-R: Barrique Red, Montego Blue, Crimson Red, Arctic, Sparkling Graphite, Titanium Silver, Alpine White, Black Sapphire

Schwepps

08-02-2007, 07:21 AM

Simple...I'm cheap! :p

I paid for these tires, by gosh I want every thread's worth.... :D

Sure, we all do. But you're "upgrading to a staggered 18" set up this month (wheel type 197 on performance Potenzas RFTs). The 156s will be relegated to winter duty."

Doesn't that mean a new set of RFT shod wheels that you're paying for, or did you collect a set from cereal boxes? :D

BTW, my vote goes to Crimson Red! :p

KL2DC

08-02-2007, 07:47 AM

Sure, we all do. But you're "upgrading to a staggered 18" set up this month (wheel type 197 on performance Potenzas RFTs). The 156s will be relegated to winter duty."

:p suddenly I'm put on the spot....:rolleyes:

The answer to that is equally as simple, I'm getting a brand new set (take offs) of 197s with RFTs for $1,200 installed....when I looked at aftermarket (CSL replicas etc), the cheapest I could get was $1,500 ish with non RFT tires. At this point, OEM BBS manufacture wheels and performance name brand tires rule by virtue of outright value ... :D

Schwepps

08-02-2007, 07:58 AM

rookie

08-02-2007, 08:51 AM

cool! :)

RM540 is a bit much for what constitutes as a straight-up oil change. Whats the deal with the brake fluid change so early on...? :confused:

The OBC says brake fluid was due for a change :( AutoBavaria charges multiple arms and legs for oil (RM3++) and of course there is labor charges.

KL2DC

08-02-2007, 09:16 AM

Understando. ;) Wow, I managed to put the USF on the spot??! :p

A new set of 18" 197s with Potenza staggered RFTs for RM4,200! Things are unfairly cheap in the States. Here we're paying a premium for everything. :(

Well, they're takeoffs...not brand spanking new, I m getting them off a friend's E92 which is coming in this month and off they go and onto my rig.

I think I like them over the 162s. They look a lot like the CSL's or BBS CH's. I'm quite excited :p

Schwepps

08-02-2007, 09:22 AM

The OBC says brake fluid was due for a change :( AutoBavaria charges multiple arms and legs for oil (RM3++) and of course there is labor charges.

The brake fluid change at 17k is strange. :confused:

All luxury car dealers charge an arm and leg for a simple oil change, but service inclusive is worth it if you get it. As an example, my wifey's E240 came with 3 free services and I've done 3 oil change servicings over 2 years for a princely sum of RM0.00! :eek: Also included so far are various consumables and warranty items. The only $$ I've spent at C&C for the first 2 years of ownership is for leather seat cleaning and oiling. Very satisfying. :)

rookie

08-02-2007, 10:38 AM

The brake fluid change at 17k is strange. :confused:

All luxury car dealers charge an arm and leg for a simple oil change, but service inclusive is worth it if you get it. As an example, my wifey's E240 came with 3 free services and I've done 3 oil change servicings over 2 years for a princely sum of RM0.00! :eek: Also included so far are various consumables and warranty items. The only $$ I've spent at C&C for the first 2 years of ownership is for leather seat cleaning and oiling. Very satisfying. :)

Well my car is 2 years old. The low mileage is due to my hectic traveling over the past 2 years. As I said, the BMW service inclusive package wasn't offered when I got the car, which was during the E90 launch back in early 2005. Anyway, it's better to get the Service inclusive package, which is bundled in all new BMW purchases anyway :o

KL2DC

08-02-2007, 11:15 PM

Well my car is 2 years old. The low mileage is due to my hectic traveling over the past 2 years. As I said, the BMW service inclusive package wasn't offered when I got the car, which was during the E90 launch back in early 2005. Anyway, it's better to get the Service inclusive package, which is bundled in all new BMW purchases anyway :o

That is pretty low mileage :D Now I understand the brake service item. Full maintenance was one of the selling point for me. Most german marques here have shied away from full maintenance (like Audi and Mercedes-Benz). I just like the idea of not worrying about petty items for the next 4 years/50k miles. I just wish annual alignments were included :( but appreciate new wipers everytime I ask for them :)

Schwepps

08-02-2007, 11:55 PM

Yeah, I get it too now. It's not the mileage that counts with brake fluid, it's the age. The boiling point of brake fluid deteriorates over time and the recommended interval to change it is every 3 years.

rookie

09-02-2007, 10:03 AM

Wow KL2DC, they change your wipers for you? :D I am not sure whether the Service Inclusive package covers wipers, but if yes then it would be great.

KL2DC

09-02-2007, 10:16 AM

Wow KL2DC, they change your wipers for you? :D I am not sure whether the Service Inclusive package covers wipers, but if yes then it would be great.

LOL yeah, I just tell the SA the wipers are starting to streak (eventhough they're good) and they get swapped out :D One time I dropped by for a windshield washer fluid topup. I'm cheap like that :p

Actually, different dealers have different policies wrt fluids top up, but usually your selling dealership is accomodating. It also doesn't hurt to tip your SA every now and then just so he'd take care of you ;) I got a great loaner car the last time...

danc

09-02-2007, 10:34 AM

rookie,

Tats what I hear, the wipers are covered by AB.

rookie

09-02-2007, 01:02 PM

That's great then danc. Anyone else sent their cars for service with AB yet? I am sure there are plenty of owners who have used their cars more than me ;)

David Yong

09-02-2007, 01:28 PM

For the Service Inclusive Package, everything is covered except for tires. U dun have to come out with a single cent for the first 3 years or 60,000 km whichever comes first. I did my first service when my car hits 10,000 km. It's free.

Schwepps

09-02-2007, 01:57 PM

Service Inclusive is definitely worth it. All consumables should be covered so long as there is real deterioration, such as wipers and such. Don't know if we can get away with windscreen washer fluid like KL2DC though. :)

David Yong

09-02-2007, 05:11 PM

Don't know if we can get away with windscreen washer fluid like KL2DC though. :)

Of course you can as long as you know how to make friends with those service advisors :) buy them teh tarik and spend them one or two stick of cigarette and they will remember you well..... and when you need washer fluid.... I'm sure they will sneak one for you :)

KL2DC

09-02-2007, 08:48 PM

Of course you can as long as you know how to make friends with those service advisors :) buy them teh tarik and spend them one or two stick of cigarette and they will remember you well..... and when you need washer fluid.... I'm sure they will sneak one for you :)

That's the ticket ;)

Technically everything but fluid top ups, tires and alignment...

KL2DC

23-02-2007, 08:26 AM

Just a little sneak peek ...(don't look too close, there's 2 inches of winter grime on there)

-197 wheels (staggered) setup is on.

-Bridgestone RE050A RFT 225/40/18 (front) and 255/35/18 (rear)

-Rogue Engineering 15mm spacers at the back

-Standard suspension set-up (for now) - 2 fingers fender gap at the back and 3 fingers fender gap in the front

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f143/kl2dc/DSC04150Medium.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f143/kl2dc/DSC04152Medium.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f143/kl2dc/DSC04159Medium.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f143/kl2dc/DSC04154Medium.jpg

I love the OEM 197s. They are made by BBS and reminds me of the BBS CHs (or the CSL wheels) :)

How'd they feel: Actually, the car rides cushier than my 156 setup (205/55/16 Bridgestone EL42 RFT). I'm very surprised. They're definitely grippier but more likely to tramline - front end wanders more.

Next mods: Front painted OEM style splitters (being clearbra'd right now)
Planning: OEM strut brace, H&R Sport springs (1.2 inch drop)...it never ends :eek:

Will take better pics later on and post in the appropriate section.

Happy E90'ing guys!!

E46Fanatic

23-02-2007, 08:31 AM

Dude, you need to wash your car :). Anyway I am convinced that the CBU E90's have a lower suspension setup than the CKDs we get here. Odd...

KL2DC

23-02-2007, 08:37 AM

Dude, you need to wash your car :). Anyway I am convinced that the CBU E90's have a lower suspension setup than the CKDs we get here. Odd...

LOL its hard to keep a clean car in the winter. The car was much dirtier but we had some recent rains that washed it all off. I haven't had a car wash since December and a full details since August.

Actually for some reason my E90 sits a little bit lower than other standard E90s. Please no fat jokes :p

Schwepps

23-02-2007, 08:58 AM

Nah, we know it's only the weight of all that winter grime... :)

KL2DC

23-02-2007, 09:07 AM

Oh wanted to add, the wheels have the new for 07 Tire Pressure Monitoring System sensors and valve stems in them. The E92s have a true TPMS while the E90s still soldier on with an FTM. Of course they don't work on the E90 so these much sought after TPMS sensors are just dying to be removed and sold ($300 worth of sensors in them) lol Maybe one day...it would be a nice offset to the $1,200 outlay for them *sigh*

David Yong

23-02-2007, 05:46 PM

Yes... you need to wash your car :)

KL2DC

23-02-2007, 10:41 PM

Someone pshopped in a drop.

This is what my car would look like with H&R sport springs...thinking about it. It never ends does it? :(

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f143/kl2dc/temp1.jpg

David Yong

24-02-2007, 02:09 AM

It definitely looks much better with such drop :)......

KL2DC

05-04-2007, 12:58 AM

Some more E90 insights to share with you guys...

A crack recently developed on my windshield. It really appeared from no where. After close examination, I noted a pin-hole pit signalling the dreaded contact point of a rock. I don't recall when I got hit but I am amazed with the speed in which the crack grew (at least an inch a day). I was even more amazed to note how a small contact point can yield such a huge (internal) crack.

Coincidentally, there was a small discussion on how brittle our windshields are. For US cars, we get the Climate Comfort glass as standard. Basically its UV/solar coated which is good and all. But a tech/expert shared that it is for this very reason the windshields are noticeably brittle/vulnerable. Some owners have complained of extensive pitting from grit and other debris.

Anyways, I had my windshield replaced a few days ago. I know that a retrofit will never exact the same air-tight seal as factory but the crack was beyond repair. The windshield replacement came complete with the rain and light sensor built in, along with the UV coating and green band. Its pretty much plug and play EXCEPT for an additional piece called the condensation sensor. This $100 part had to be ordered seperate and installed as the old one cannot be transferred to the new windshield.

So there you have it, the glass has 3 sensors! Rain (for the autowipers), light (for the autolights) and a condensation sensor (which works with the auto climate to activate autodefog, as required).

The total bill came out to US$730, I had to pay the $250 deductible on the comp coverage. I think this is a lot for a windshield! Btw, there are aftermarket units available with the sensors built in, but I insisted on dealer/oem glass. Just so that you know. It was a 90 minute job.

So guys, take care of your glass!!

KL2DC

05-04-2007, 01:13 AM

As a follow up to the last mod post:

-It looks like I'm not getting the painted OEM style splitters I ordered last November. I lost $240 on a scam deal, the online vendor folded and disappeared with our money. We're still doing an ongoing chase/investigation. Sucks big time!

I have since ordered another set (I really want these) but it looks like I won't be getting them anytime soon (still developing the moulds). I really want this as imho the front looks too passive as it is, and short of the hartge lip, this is the look I want for my E90. Its subtle yet distinctive and easily removed/replaced, not too shabby for $200.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f143/kl2dc/DSC_0113Small.jpg

So my mods to do list for 2007 remains (in order): Eibach springs, OEM-style painted splitters and OEM strut bar.

After that, I think I would be pretty satisfied...at least until the upgrade in a year or two :rolleyes:

Share your 2007 mod plans, guys!!

armi

05-04-2007, 03:03 AM

Hey all, not sure if this is the right place to post this but it's E90 related :).

Not sure how to describe this but edges of my leather seat seem to have scraped off. I must have been wearing jeans and possibly the rivets caused this. Car is approx. 2 years old (2005 E90). I can't believe the quality of the leather upholstery in a UDM. It's a CBU unit.

I apply mcquire leather care once awhile but not too often.

I'm bringing it to WeColour in Kepong to try to fix it. Anyone experienced this? Any ways of preventing further damage or strengthening the leather's outer layer?

KL2DC

05-04-2007, 03:58 AM

armi: if the damage is what I think it is, basically some bits are scraped off (deep layered scratches), you'd have no choice but to refinish/restore it.

The dakota leather is not the best leather but regular conditioning and cleaning (with good products) would've helped made it more durable/resistant. Dakota gets too dry and hence vulnerable to scrapes, cracking, creases etc.

One of the reasons I went with leatherette, I thought both materials felt and looked about the same but with just about zero maintenance. 13 months down the road and my seats/interior still looks showroom fresh.

KL2DC

05-04-2007, 07:30 AM

For those thinking of the M-tech front and/or rear check this out:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54565

$350 painted and air-freighted...I'm very tempted to get the M rear bumper lol

Aiya, so many mods so little dollars :eek:

rookie

05-04-2007, 07:56 AM

Go for it KL2DC! USD$350 is dirt cheap compared to the OEM ones sold here. You can probably drop the idea of the CF splitters with these babies. :) BTW sorry to hear about the wind-screen crack.

KL2DC

05-04-2007, 08:11 AM

Go for it KL2DC! USD$350 is dirt cheap compared to the OEM ones sold here. You can probably drop the idea of the CF splitters with these babies. :) BTW sorry to hear about the wind-screen crack.

LOL baby steps my friend...I have to stick to my mod schedule.

Actually, this GB is timely. I got rear tapped 3 weeks ago. Nothing major but that @#*( grand cherokee left dimples on my rear bumper. Long story as the bi@tch who drove it did a hit and run and I had to track her down. Right now its an insurance company battle.

Well eventhough the damage is minor, it'd still call for a replacement as there's no way those indentations/small perforations can be buffed out. :(

With that in mind and despite what I said, I'd be keeping an eye this replica M bumper :rolleyes:

Spaceman

08-04-2007, 12:12 AM

i think the E90 M3 sedan bumper will be sexier, i'll wait for that...

mr_B

09-04-2007, 03:49 PM

mr_B

09-04-2007, 03:51 PM

Spaceman,

Do u know how much this cost in Malaysia?

mr_B

09-04-2007, 05:29 PM

gents,

Can you guys tell me of any accessories shop in KL (apart from AB, sapura, etc) that have body kits for the E90. Trying to get the front lips, rear skirts & spoiler.

Thanks ..

rookie

09-04-2007, 07:42 PM

Hi mr_B, I believe places like Motor Sports Division (http://www.motorsportdivision.com) should have them. You can have a look at the HyperTune magazine because these places do advertise in there (the last time I browsed through the magazine lah :))

KL2DC

09-04-2007, 10:38 PM

Gents,

Have any of you tried the "Shine n Sheild" auto pain protection thinggy. Their location is in bandar sunway. They claim to use teflon coating instead of the normal wax on your painted surface. The price rm 880 for E90 with warranty up to 5 years. Check out their website at www.shinenshield.com (http://www.shinenshield.com)

Don't waste your money. Dealerships try to sell these treatments all the time here. Cost of materials is like $10 but they try to sell it to you for $500. Its warrantied but you need to come in for regular touch ups. And you're not supposed to wax/polish the car or something like that.

Spend money on a good polymer sealant and dedicate a whole Sunday in your garage. I have zaino on mine, it protects well for 6 month periods. Others like Klasse.

David Yong

09-04-2007, 11:23 PM

i agree with KL2DC very much.

danc

10-04-2007, 12:16 AM

Slightly harder to find Zaino or Klasse here in MY. (unless someone can share where to get them). Agree that these shops are more of a ripp off then any. I mean in terms of pricing. All you need is a litle elbow grease and a good polish/wax/sealant i.e. Autoglym, Meguire etc.

Of course if you really have the dough then just go for these guys.... ;-)

danc

11-04-2007, 03:26 PM

Hi all,

Quick question. How often do you send your bimmer for wheel balancing and alignment? Heard from a fren, bimmers hardly even need alignments and what ever DONT send your cars to outside tire shops without proper specs for BMs. True?

Thanks

Juan Powerblow

11-04-2007, 03:37 PM

Dunno about E90s but for the E46s, I used to do alignment every 6 months esp since it always runs in low profile setup. I found mis-aligned E46s to be very irritating to drive. I note the E90s are far more "solid" and with active steering and improved steering lock etc, what your friend said might be true. So, I regret I'm not offering any sure answers but would love to know too from other sifus.

rookie

11-04-2007, 05:42 PM

I haven't sent my E90 for wheel balancing (no vibration problems even at 160 km/h), or alignment since 1st day of ownership. Don't know whether our E90 is that solid, but for my case, there wasn't any problems with balancing/alignment and I was not sure whether our wheel mechs could handle the E90

KL2DC

11-04-2007, 10:12 PM

I don't think any car is immune from needing routine alignment. I know the Full Maintenance plan doesn't cover routine alignments, but BMW isn't paying for tires.

I believe an annual alignment is good measure unless you drive 100% of your time on mirror smooth roads.

BMW dealers charges an arm and a leg for alignment. Initial estimates range from $300 to $400. That's high enough to not bring the car in unnecessarily.

But I just found out that a competent outside tire shop with good equipment can do it for far less. Just check with the shop if they have the E90 alignment specs in their computer system. If they don't, then slip your SA a twenty-note and ask him for the specs (and share with others here :D ).

Anyways, I'm planning to bring my car in for alignment shortly after my springs install (hopefully by the end of this month). So far I've gotten a quote of $130 for my 'specialty alignment' job. Not sure what the specialty part is....but one can only guess :rolleyes: ... but whatever, its still far cheaper than what the dealership is asking.

Juan Powerblow

11-04-2007, 10:22 PM

Please allow me to go back a bit to the topic of car detailing. I need all your expert advice on how to protect a new car's paint job from Day 1. I'm negotiating with AB for DiamondBrite or a full spa treatment @ Carnauba in the hope that I can avoid nicks and scratches that would just break my heart on my new car. It's really unfortunate I work in a shop-office and have to park the car outdoors. In fact, I'm contemplating walking to work but that will be a real hassle at least for the next 2 months till my company car arrives. What would you fellas recommend? I guess I'm prepared to splash on this! The advertorial on DiamondBrite that I don't have to wax and polish the car for 6 years sounds terribly appealing but I was wondering if there's any merit to that?

safri

11-04-2007, 10:34 PM

in case anyone interested to get an e90 330, there's a unit at AB Sg besi asking for RM345k, artic blue mileage 12k km...love the rims.

KL2DC

11-04-2007, 10:43 PM

JP, no paint treatment/sealant etc can protect you against nicks and scratches. For that you need one of these...:D

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f143/kl2dc/secguard.jpg

Anyways back to topic, I did a quick look see online on diamondbrite and to be honest, I'm not 100% convinced. It sounds like the multitude of snake oil dealerships try to sell to suckers. They come in various techno names using words like nano and teflon but at the end of the day all you get is some hosing down with some sort of solution that only cost them $10. You can't beat an honest to goodness claybar/sealant DIY. Sure they entice you with 6 years warranty but there are strict limitations and conditions.

Look, you have a light color car coming, so that's a plus. I'd do a claybar (to get rid of the impurities from shipping/sitting at the docks) and a good polymer sealant (like zaino and klasse) application. The sealant should give good protection against bird droppings, sunlights and acid rain in 6 month intervals. The key is routine TLC, there is not magical no maintenance way to essential car care. Always have some microfiber towels and a quick detailer spray bottle handy at all times.

Check this guy's new car prep routine:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41760

KL2DC

11-04-2007, 10:52 PM

JP, don't know if you've seen this before but check this out:

http://www.vxronline.co.uk/messageboard/viewtopic.php?t=4618

Amazing detail job...

danc

11-04-2007, 11:13 PM

JPB,

I have been quite a detailing fanatic for all of my cars and I have yet to come across one out there that really works based upon the $$ they are asking for.

If you are really into giving all the TLC fr your new car, nothing beats DIY. Get the best products and off you go. Before you clay the car I would first check the surface and see if it really needs it. i.e. wash, dry the car and run your hands across the surface,if it's not mirror smooth time to clay. Since your car is new I would hold off claying. Use a good polish and then sealant. In Malaysia you just cant beat these 2 brands in terms of $$, availability and ease of application. Autoglym and Meguir.

I have been using Autoglym for donkey years, what I like about it is the ease of application and it really last a long time, though it may not shine like some other brands but if protection is what you are after, you can't beat this product. Two autoglym must have product is Super Resin polish and then follow up with Extra Gloss Protection and you won't need anything for the next 6 months minimum.

For Mequir, check out the NXT range. The best clay I have used so far is from Mequir (get the kit/set)

Just my 2 cents.

KL2DC

11-04-2007, 11:40 PM

Great advice from danc...as mentioned check the paint, even new cars new claybarring. They pick up a lot of impurities from the factory to transit to holding to delivery day.

Juan Powerblow

12-04-2007, 12:24 AM

Thanks guys! I truly appreciate your honest advice. I guess it's time to kick my condo management into providing more car wash areas and equipment and then dedicate some time to DIY. I used to do it myself and find that it's a great way to exercise and relieve stress, but got plain lazy along the way. Time to kick my own arse as well then.

KL2DC

12-04-2007, 01:16 AM

JP yeah get your back into it and spend some quality time with your new ride :D Maybe you won't have anymore weak-leg-can't-start-the-car moment anymore :p

Actually, I cheat. I have a forum member DIY my car for me at his house. Its practically DIY, just not by me :D It takes him the whole day to wash, clay and zaino my car in and out. I'd do it but the body is not willing, I'm notoriously lazy y'know :D

But the point is...routine personal maintenance is the key!

rookie

12-04-2007, 01:10 PM

Hi JPB, why don't you consult our Club Advisor, Kevster since he runs a shop that specializes in this and uses Meguair's

E46Fanatic

12-04-2007, 03:26 PM

Get a pair of sneakers and leave the E92 in the home basement parking lot :). Seriously, while you were carless you did this for umm 1+ month.

The sucky thing about KL is the pollutants in the air from the kapchais, construction lorries etc. When it rains, all these pullutants get pulled down with the rain and lands on your car and then gets baked into the paint when the sun comes out. Bad news man. It is hard to fight this even with excellent wax/sealant products you can buy. One alternative is to wash the car everyday with a good shampoo, but this has to be done 5 times a week, which might be good for a weight loss program as well :). Even this will see the need for claying perhaps once a month or bi monthly. Quite heartache for a new car with new paintwork.

So I'd stick to the sneaker strategy hehe.