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ichi82
22-04-2011, 12:16 AM
Sifus,

i'm a still a noob about bimmer and wanna ask if N42 got vanos or not coz i read from other forums that it does?if got is it single or double vanos? :hmmmm2:

B33mEr
22-04-2011, 02:04 AM
N42 have valvetronic ... but no vanos

http://www.bmwheaven.com/database/engine.php

ichi82
22-04-2011, 10:29 AM
i got mix result when searching in other forum..some say that N42 does have vanos and alot of vids in you tube regarding checking solenoid for vanos in N42. even in BMWCM archive also a forumer told that N42 have it after checking with AB (sorry lost the link). some article in E46fanatic also says that N42 have vanos. i read that valvetronic system was derived from vanos system. As per link below this guy is saying that N42B20 have double vanos apart from valvetronic. i've seen in a couple of article saying the same for N42B20 but because it have valvetronic the behavior is different from 6 potter.all this while i thought that vanos and double vanos is available in 6 pot only. i don't know about N42B18 engine coz my focus was on N42B20. I'm really confused

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=80343

aidilj
22-04-2011, 10:41 AM
Are u talking about this thread?

http://www.bmwclubmalaysia.com/forums/showthread.php?10260-Need-to-know-bout-E46-318-2.0

ichi82
22-04-2011, 10:54 AM
Are u talking about this thread?

http://www.bmwclubmalaysia.com/forums/showthread.php?10260-Need-to-know-bout-E46-318-2.0

yes bro..any takes on this?is it true that N42B20 have double vanos?

jarance
22-04-2011, 11:01 AM
I thought N42 have Vtecc..

ichi82
22-04-2011, 11:06 AM
I thought N42 have Vtecc..

haha bro jarance..since when my bimmer became cibik. need to change to new emblem la like that :marchmellow:

Alex5522
22-04-2011, 11:18 AM
Bro i think u can refer to this 2 dia (Refer to portion of Cylinder head)
Dia 1 - N42 Engine and Dia 2 - M52 Engine
I can't see any vanos on N42 engine

Dia 1 : http://bmwfans.info/parts/catalog/E46/Sedan/Malaysia/318i-N42/2003/browse/engine/

Dia 2 : http://bmwfans.info/parts/catalog/E46/Sedan/Europe/320i-M52/RHD/N/2000/july/browse/engine/

jarance
22-04-2011, 11:23 AM
sorry lah! it VVT lah..

http://static.bmwfans.info/images/epc/MTYxMDY4X3A=.png (http://bmwfans.info/parts/catalog/E46/Sedan/Malaysia/318i-N42/2003/browse/engine/cylinder_head_electr_add_on_parts/)
Cylinder head, electr. add-on parts (http://bmwfans.info/parts/catalog/E46/Sedan/Malaysia/318i-N42/2003/browse/engine/cylinder_head_electr_add_on_parts/) - BMW parts catalog (http://bmwfans.info/parts/catalog/)

ichi82
22-04-2011, 11:36 AM
thats what i thought..but some people says that N42B20 have both vanos and valvetronic. N42B18 only have valvetronic. thats what confused me..even when i search in youtube there are some vids regarding replacing and changing vanos for N42B20. i'm a noob and don't know much..i know for sure that i have valvetronic but don't know about vanos. or is it only available for euro N42B20 spec?. really2 confused.

jarance
22-04-2011, 11:39 AM
thats what i thought..but some people says that N42B20 have both vanos and valvetronic. N42B18 only have valvetronic. thats what confused me..even when i search in youtube there are some vids regarding replacing and changing vanos for N42B20. i'm a noob and don't know much..i know for sure that i have valvetronic but don't know about vanos. or is it only available for euro N42B20 spec?. really2 confused.

How do you know that you have a N42B20 engine?

ichi82
22-04-2011, 11:49 AM
sorry lah! it VVT lah..

http://static.bmwfans.info/images/epc/MTYxMDY4X3A=.png (http://bmwfans.info/parts/catalog/E46/Sedan/Malaysia/318i-N42/2003/browse/engine/cylinder_head_electr_add_on_parts/)
Cylinder head, electr. add-on parts (http://bmwfans.info/parts/catalog/E46/Sedan/Malaysia/318i-N42/2003/browse/engine/cylinder_head_electr_add_on_parts/) - BMW parts catalog (http://bmwfans.info/parts/catalog/)

hehe..i thought i bought cibik bmw look a like lol.. thats what confused me bro jarance..can both vanos and valvetronic exist together in same engine ka?and why when that mwtang guy asked AB they said that N42 facelift 02 onwards have double vanos?
http://www.bmwclubmalaysia.com/forum...ut-E46-318-2.0

ichi82
22-04-2011, 12:03 PM
How do you know that you have a N42B20 engine?

engine 2000 cc displacement 1995cm3. must be N42B20 right? the other N42B18 is for 1800 cc right? M43 is the 1900 cc right?unless my car registration is wrong then i am sure i have N42B20. M43 you will feel a bit of underpower right? mine 180kmh ++ easily get not even full throttle.my tiptronic manual can go 5 gear oso.. must be 2000 cc la kan sifu?based on manufacturing time my car was born 08/2002 so must be the facelift version right?

jarance
22-04-2011, 12:57 PM
engine 2000 cc displacement 1995cm3. must be N42B20 right? the other N42B18 is for 1800 cc right? M43 is the 1900 cc right?unless my car registration is wrong then i am sure i have N42B20. M43 you will feel a bit of underpower right? mine 180kmh ++ easily get not even full throttle.my tiptronic manual can go 5 gear oso.. must be 2000 cc la kan sifu?based on manufacturing time my car was born 08/2002 so must be the facelift version right?

car registration can sometime be misleading. The sure way is the VIN number on your car. what is your VIN?

As pointed by beemer, there are many 2000cc car built around yesr 2001.
Have a look at the picture. Which one is your engine?

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o271/pbjy/E46%20Parts/engine2011-04-22_123250.jpg

M43 engine
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o271/pbjy/E46%20Parts/engine2011-04-22_124442.jpg

N42 engine
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o271/pbjy/E46%20Parts/engine2011-04-22_113850.jpg

M52 engine
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o271/pbjy/E46%20Parts/engine2011-04-22_114246.jpg

ichi82
22-04-2011, 01:15 PM
vin : ET45105. It is N42 engine manufactured 08/2002 as per what i've stated before. but how to know the actual cc?it didn't state my cc

jarance
22-04-2011, 01:29 PM
vin : ET45105. It is N42 engine manufactured 08/2002 as per what i've stated before. but how to know the actual cc?it didn't state my cc

do a scan on your car with a diagnostic tool and all will be revealed.

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o271/pbjy/Project%20Bus/Capture_18.jpg

fabianyee
22-04-2011, 01:39 PM
I don't see any obvious mechanism to alter the camshaft angle in the N42, unlike in the Vanos equipped engines...

Valvetronic alters the intake valve lift and duration. but does nothing to the camshaft timing...

ichi82
22-04-2011, 01:43 PM
do a scan on your car with a diagnostic tool and all will be revealed.

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o271/pbjy/Project%20Bus/Capture_18.jpg

aiyo bro still not that advance yet.i know a lot of sifus here did DIY scanning using GT1 sw and hope to learn about it..maybe when i service i'll ask the mech to printout. for know i am sticking to N42B20 as the car behaviour is leaning towards it than N42B18. from the engine diagram i did not see anything resemble vanos. i will try to to more research. but if sifu got some knowledge in my small engine that can clear my confusion over this matter would be appreciated. haiyo..i never got so much interest in cars before. UDM is really addictive..i don't think can never stop loving UDM no matter how manja it is ( lucky not so manja2 sgt)..

jarance
22-04-2011, 02:17 PM
Come to MMZ Bukit Jelutong tomorrow (Sat) and I will do a free scan for you lar. After that no need to be confused.

Alex5522
22-04-2011, 02:45 PM
vin : ET45105. It is N42 engine manufactured 08/2002 as per what i've stated before. but how to know the actual cc?it didn't state my cc

Base on your vin the spec of your engine was :

318i/Ci/ti N42B20 2002–2003 1995cc I4, 16v 143 PS (105 kW; 141 bhp) 148 ft·lbf (201 N·m) 9.3 s

Refer : Wikipedia BMW 3 Series (E46)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_3_Series_%28E46%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_N42

N42B18 engine was for model 2001-2003 E46 316i/316ti

ichi82
22-04-2011, 03:30 PM
Come to MMZ Bukit Jelutong tomorrow (Sat) and I will do a free scan for you lar. After that no need to be confused.

Sure a bro jarance?won't trouble ur weekend? Then can diagnose if theres problem wit the car also right?Need sifu opinion for anything i need to look out for.really luv her but i'm a super duper noob to bimmer and would be nice to have a sifu 2 give opinion. if can what time and how can i contact u?.tempted with that self DIY diagnose and hope to learn how to do it.saw that GB for OBD-II Scanner organized by you. do you still have extra in stock?.interested to buy it. bro kby*88* on his last post said "Live Data of DME & EGS no available for E46 N42 engine".

jarance
22-04-2011, 03:48 PM
Session starts from 1:30. Group Buy is closed. I am not selling it. You can check out china on-line site.
If you think the scanner suit you, then buy it after you seen it in action. Dont waste your money if it does not
suit your need.

p/s Let just say that I want to experiment with your car with BMW Scanner and INPA program.

here is the detail. click below link.

http://www.bmwclubmalaysia.com/forums/showthread.php?41411-MMZ-TT-Technical-Session-with-BMW-Scanner

ichi82
22-04-2011, 04:01 PM
Session starts from 1:30. Group Buy is closed. I am not selling it. You can check out china on-line site.
If you think the scanner suit you, then buy it after you seen it in action. Dont waste your money if it does not
suit your need.

p/s Let just say that I want to experiment with your car with BMW Scanner and INPA program.

here is the detail. click below link.

http://www.bmwclubmalaysia.com/forums/showthread.php?41411-MMZ-TT-Technical-Session-with-BMW-Scanner


sifu want to experiment.. can

aidilj
22-04-2011, 06:24 PM
The engine type is engraved on the engine, you would see this if you spent long enough time under the hood. Later I will post picture of mine.. k

aidilj
22-04-2011, 06:26 PM
I think a member want to sell his scanner, xcrave?

aidilj
22-04-2011, 09:05 PM
Here's the engine number and its location on the engine. Also, bad news is that my solenoid valve is leaking badly. Its ok, DIY to fix leak here http://www.e46fanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=705850. Happy weekend everyone..

http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy197/aidilj/bmw%20general/DSC00057.jpg

http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy197/aidilj/bmw%20general/DSC00059.jpg

http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy197/aidilj/bmw%20general/DSC00060.jpg